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Trapped between worlds – Anybody sometimes feel the same?

~d2~
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Posted : Apr 7, 2009 21:13
what do you base your guess on?
RaDioAcTiVe AcIdHeAd


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Posted : Apr 17, 2009 02:04
a lot of things, and wat i believe in...           ?
MuckyPuh
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Posted : Nov 3, 2009 16:31
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On 2009-04-04 04:08, AumShantiAum wrote:
yes I feel the same way sometimes, it's a very difficult balance to achieve. If you want to live the modern lifestyle you need money. I say spend time and energy accumulating money and then youll be able to do whatever it is you want very comfortably.




I agree with you- it is hard to hold the balance here-

But how can you achieve one thing by doing another?

How can you reach the left side by turning right? (...well 3 times right is also left ... bad example .. hehe)

- BUT how does money help you achieve the things you wanna do - more comfortably?
if you already have the money - ok – then you can concentrate on the things you REALY wanna do! In this case you´re right – but if you don´t have it yet, spending time and energy accumulating it, may handicaps you from achieving your real goals.

In every path you will have its difficulties to manage before you can go further. In music it may be the different skills you have to get to become a greate artist. In money it may be the career you have to make to get high earnings.

Don´t you think the path you choose already will be difficult enough? Without having a second path to follow only to make the real one easier? And how easier is it then anyway?

If I would like to be a famous musician, should I therefore start by moderating talkshows to get famous first?? I dont think so.. ...maybe you spend your whole life trying to get into this talkshow thing and in the end, even if you can make it – you still haven´t started yet to achieve your real dream!

imagine: You are now 30, you have spend the last 12 years to make a career and achieving the goals of your CEO. you are now able to buy all the stuff you thought you would need before becoming a musician. maybe you can buy the complete studio equipment at once but you still have no clue about making music because your mind was focused on accumulating money the last years.

And as reality is made up out of our previous thoughts we have a good chance to achieve our dreams! We just have to know what our goals are, focuse and put some effort in achieving them. In most cases money wont be neceserely important.

Furthermore with money always grow the needs as Jedi knight said before. You wont make a career and save everything you earn- NO! - you ll compensate the lost energy with holidays, cars and other things you don´t realy need. In the end you can easely get lost or loose the target.


Another point of few is also the fact that the harder it gets for you to achieve something the more greatful you are. If you have to save money for a year to buy you a synthesizer you will be so happy you finally have it that you will learn how to get 100 % out of it. If you could buy yourself a different one every month you would maybe play a few times with it and decide to take a different one because you never bound with it or something .. ..

(someone here said more or less the same thing about buying VST Plugins)

I don´t wanna say that it is wrong to accumulate money. And as you all mentioned before “it wont work completely without it” but you should never forget if money was your target in the frist place or just a tool to reach your real target.
Freeflow
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Posted : Nov 3, 2009 19:47
If life where about surviving more we would not have so many other problems to think about =) hehe

And i agree, this money thing is a bitch, its sometimes a spirit killer! but wtf make some money so you can live, its not you who set the rules for this society, and if you are not going to do a revolution with me we better live like this!


Or we join forces and make a new world with other conditions?
MuckyPuh
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Posted : Nov 4, 2009 15:18
isnt that what we are already doing?

join forces - collaborate -spread wisdoms and different views? to make a world with better conditions?

revolution is a "hard" word - everyone has different views of revolution and many connect it with anarchism, riots and stuff ..

- so lets call it Evolution - and Iam with you!!
Aluxe
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Posted : Nov 19, 2009 07:49
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On 2009-11-04 15:18, gizmobaggins wrote:
isnt that what we are already doing?

join forces - collaborate -spread wisdoms and different views? to make a world with better conditions?



I am in! I see in my heart a new age for humanity, a better world and that is the vision I want to feed.

And I think we need to think beyond all the associations we have about what humans are because we have a very denigrated self image and if we associate with that we will never be able to get out of the mess. We have to expand our horizons and use our imagination to create a new vision to live by! We have to use our magic and believe that we can create a new world!
wizanda
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Posted : Nov 19, 2009 22:12
This whole reality is made from frequency, where each quantum resonates at different vibrations to make things; money can not buy universal energy; which is why people try an "buy a stairway to heaven".
Yet what if we are all in the matrix and instead of an evil computer running things, its the light that sustains the reality.
An really we are the ones in darkness right now, not realizing that all we really need to do is turn on the light of Oneness within each of us and not Ego, yet we are force fed the opposite as a belief system.
Not that it really answers the question, yet things could be not as perceived and could change very soon.           www.wizanda.com www.soundcloud.com/wizanda
Freeflow
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Posted : Nov 19, 2009 22:41
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On 2009-11-04 15:18, gizmobaggins wrote:
isnt that what we are already doing?

join forces - collaborate -spread wisdoms and different views? to make a world with better conditions?

revolution is a "hard" word - everyone has different views of revolution and many connect it with anarchism, riots and stuff ..

- so lets call it Evolution - and Iam with you!!



Okej lets call it evolution, but then we just sit and wait for something to happen by natures force.... okej fine by me, no worries it will solve it self? =)

Maybe its my warrior soul that wants to go to war against this mad society! But i remember you said something wise about fighting darkness with light, just as wizanda are saying now but in other words..

cheers all!
MuckyPuh
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Posted : Nov 21, 2009 17:32
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On 2009-11-19 22:41, Freeflow wrote:

but then we just sit and wait for something to happen by natures force....



no thats no good point either... as we said before we have to spread light and this wont happen by sitting there and waiting for someone else (nature) to solve it alone. we have to help nature. we have to be part of the solution - not part of the problem. every change allways has to start within oneself. so try to change all the things you would change in society in yourself first. and if you do so other people automaticly will follow!

for example - when i stoped eating animals - those who respect me listend to my reasons - they thought about it one more time - and some of them stoped eating animals too.

if mother earth is going to clean itself from all bad and evil - i realy dont wanna be part of it.. (of the bad and evil)

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Maybe its my warrior soul that wants to go to war against this mad society!



well i understand your point - i often felt the same - but As we are all different parts of one spirit - fighting against society would be like cuting your left hand with your right hand.

we are like cells in a human body. If a cell does not know that it is part of one big organism - it starts to behave on its own. (for the bad of the whole organism.) this is called cancer...

So FIRST we have to realise that we are part of ONE BIG ORGANISM. then we can try to help those cells who behave on there own - to get back in the line - to work together as one healthy body/organism/species...

we are the creator... so its on us to create a better future           http://www.muckymusic.blogspot.de/
http://soundcloud.com/muckypuh-muckymusic
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Posted : Nov 24, 2009 11:29
"The people in power will not disappear voluntarily, giving flowers to the cops just isn't going to work. This thinking is fostered by the establishment; they like nothing better than love and nonviolence. The only way I like to see cops given flowers is in a flower pot from a high window."
Burroughs, William S.


          `Bottomless wonders spring from simple rules, which are repeated without end` Mandelbrot
Dogon
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Posted : Nov 24, 2009 16:41
It's true but IMO its not a trap, it's called Life!

Enjoy the ride!           We were born naked & grow up to become wicked.
Freeflow
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Posted : Nov 24, 2009 16:53
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On 2009-11-24 16:41, Dogon wrote:
It's true but IMO its not a trap, it's called Life!

Enjoy the ride!



I cant just enjoy the ride...
but ill try to enjoy as much as possible
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