Trapped between worlds – Anybody sometimes feel the same?
Aluxe
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Posted : Apr 1, 2009 07:44:32
I sometimes live in a fantasy world, with psychedelic trance, imagining mushroom induced skies with dancing alien lands. It’s half part my imagination and part my hopes for this world, maybe it’s like a vision which I really really like. But then then next day I go out and everybody is caught in the hurry of their jobs, getting things done, being productive and chasing money. And I look at this world and what everybody is doing and how they go about their lives and I almost get a sense that I am falling behind, like I start feeling like this idealistic dreamer who doesn’t have his feet on the ground. So at this point I start telling myself that I should forget the conflict and just play the money game like everyone else (and still listen to psy trance) because I can pretend I don’t need it but the fact is that I am quite dependant on it and even feel vulnerable when I see friends working in more succesful money making jobs.
So I tell myself, yeah I am going to focus and just try to think rationaly about making some money to make things better for myself (new clothes, car, house, etc) , I say maybe I can find a middle ground. But then I hear some Goa melody that reminds me of the stuff I like the most, and I say: that’s what it’s about! That’s it! And suddenly the whole money thing seems like the most boring and draining project. So I can never focus entirely on my job because its one of those jobs that are not totally psychedelic and after a while the motivation is not there. Like the pure psychedelic vision I feel in my soul has nothing to do with my job and the money world and all that shit. It’s a totally different feeling. But then again I depend on money for survival.
Anyways, I am betting on following my heart but I was wondering if anybody else has a similar struggle sometimes.
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Posted : Apr 1, 2009 09:14
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On 2009-04-01 07:44:32, Aluxe wrote:
new clothes, car, house, etc
so u think people with rooms full of new clothes, 10 Ferraris in their garage and huge vilas dont have any difficulties? Get real man.. They are miserable as everybody elsee.. Theyre all gonna die in the and and no money is gonna save them from that.. U take whats necessary and keep if that way. If u only go after money ur never gonna finish the race, no matter how much money u have u will always want more.. And whats worse when u have a lot u have huge desires.. Dont depend just on money, its not the only thing in the world, if u have it too much it can just ruin your life, but dont feel greed and jelousy if u dont have it enough.. That just means that u have too big desires for your current financial state so be happy with what u got and worry about other happier things in life..
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Posted : Apr 2, 2009 07:11
@Aluxe:
The most important things in life are invisible but we need visible things for survival.
Ones you mange to solve the problem of survival you can concentrate to the invisible things to the psychedelic things you like.
Of course there is a daily straggle between spirituality and survival.
Because always survival comes first...
But are we pleased with just surviving or we always want more luxuries and more wealth forgetting the true values of life?
I have been many times in your situation because i have worked as a salesman in some very antagonistic environments.
Sometimes when you get more money (bonus for e.x.) with very hard effort you want for yourself something special or something new in order to erase the negative experiences you gain from your hard attempt.
This creates you new needs. Needs that you didn't have before.
It is vicious circle.
From my experience i came to a conclusion which is that i prefer to be calm and healthy and pleased with my life in order to give me the strength to control my needs. It is better for me this way. To ruin my psychology or my mental state for moneymaking just don't worth it.
I am better with little things when i have good psychology but if my psychology is ruined an extra salary wont fix it...
We live to work not work to live!
I hope i helped you in some point...
p.s.: It is very good and healthy your speculation!!!
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Posted : Apr 2, 2009 09:23
all the time, I dream of psychedelic parties, soulfull music and people with passion and love fort themselves their world and all tha the human can create.
And the I go to my new work and some of the seem so unhappy with their lifes, and the music the play at the office is terrible. But ay least my job is cool enough to oversight this.
And then I also feel in two worlds when I compare my most loved style of life ( a raver) with my formal job and carrer (political science), I like both but I only love one. I know in the end I will use my carrer only for fueling my life in the other.
But well, at least i still have the chance to do it that way.
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On 2009-04-01 07:44:32, Aluxe wrote:
I sometimes live in a fantasy world, with psychedelic trance, imagining mushroom induced skies with dancing alien lands. It’s half part my imagination and part my hopes for this world, maybe it’s like a vision which I really really like. But then then next day I go out and everybody is caught in the hurry of their jobs, getting things done, being productive and chasing money. And I look at this world and what everybody is doing and how they go about their lives and I almost get a sense that I am falling behind, like I start feeling like this idealistic dreamer who doesn’t have his feet on the ground. So at this point I start telling myself that I should forget the conflict and just play the money game like everyone else (and still listen to psy trance) because I can pretend I don’t need it but the fact is that I am quite dependant on it and even feel vulnerable when I see friends working in more succesful money making jobs.
So I tell myself, yeah I am going to focus and just try to think rationaly about making some money to make things better for myself (new clothes, car, house, etc) , I say maybe I can find a middle ground. But then I hear some Goa melody that reminds me of the stuff I like the most, and I say: that’s what it’s about! That’s it! And suddenly the whole money thing seems like the most boring and draining project. So I can never focus entirely on my job because its one of those jobs that are not totally psychedelic and after a while the motivation is not there. Like the pure psychedelic vision I feel in my soul has nothing to do with my job and the money world and all that shit. It’s a totally different feeling. But then again I depend on money for survival.
Anyways, I am betting on following my heart but I was wondering if anybody else has a similar struggle sometimes.
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I dont think he's asking for advice, he just wants to know if there are other people alike who get strechted from both ends from time to time. Well you're right all the way homie... This society, puts a notion of success in your head, that in order to live a successful life, one must have a high designation, fancy car and a big house!
Since majority of the society lives within the norms, we tend to start doubting our own beiliefs cause from the outside they all look happier on the other side of the fence.
All I can say by experience is that, people do things, work hard, make money, for a feeling of self contentment. A harddays work lets them sleep well at night. For someone charity, and giving back to the society brings them a sense of acheivement, like us for example, would feel this way if we danced through an entire set of our fav. artist, and not sitting down once.
I am with you on your thoughts, and I must mention, which you might agree with me is, a lot also depends upon your body chemistry, the way you were raised, what you have been doing the past few years and how sharp is the mind. Cause we dreamers, dwell in the past and dream of the future... the present which is there for us to explore just passes away... which makes us anxious and worried!
But what to do... we are dreamers No great genius has ever existed without some touch of madness...
I believe the aspect of survival could be an important addition to the spiritual mind, as long as you don't confuse profit and material things with happiness. But then again, I think anything could be spiritually enlightening.
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Aluxe
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Posted : Apr 3, 2009 10:02
I appreciate very much all the replies and interestingly enough I kind of agree with everyone. Like yeah it has to do with desires and also to some degree with how I was brought up.
And Jedi, I like very much what you said: "To ruin my psychology or my mental state for moneymaking just don't worth it. "
That thought is helpful! Nicely put.
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everyone is dazed and confused...from the minute ur born till the moment you die you have no clue and are always seeking for answers, you think you find them when someone with authority or someone you trusts gives them to you, but ultimately there is no wrong answer. just as there is no right answer. if you find yourself through mushroom clouds and floro poppies suite yourself, or if you find urself with ferarris and lamborgs thats okay too. just make sure you are able to distinguish and define yourself as who u are and not what have or dont have. Maybe u have a great imagination, but ur not the imagination.
You will be lost if u begin to believe that you are an artist or banker, as then you will have to live that label and everything you do will be restricted to that sphere...its like Dali and Picasso identified themselves as artists and thus they could not become politicians or anything other than artists.
Thats what happens when you identify urself with what you do rather than who you are.
If some one asks me what am i? i say i am $100 bill, use me to snort a line or use me to feed the child, i dont change, i force you to change...
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On 2009-04-01 07:44:32, Aluxe wrote:
I sometimes live in a fantasy world, with psychedelic trance, imagining mushroom induced skies with dancing alien lands. It’s half part my imagination and part my hopes for this world, maybe it’s like a vision which I really really like. But then then next day I go out and everybody is caught in the hurry of their jobs, getting things done, being productive and chasing money. And I look at this world and what everybody is doing and how they go about their lives and I almost get a sense that I am falling behind, like I start feeling like this idealistic dreamer who doesn’t have his feet on the ground. So at this point I start telling myself that I should forget the conflict and just play the money game like everyone else (and still listen to psy trance) because I can pretend I don’t need it but the fact is that I am quite dependant on it and even feel vulnerable when I see friends working in more succesful money making jobs.
So I tell myself, yeah I am going to focus and just try to think rationaly about making some money to make things better for myself (new clothes, car, house, etc) , I say maybe I can find a middle ground. But then I hear some Goa melody that reminds me of the stuff I like the most, and I say: that’s what it’s about! That’s it! And suddenly the whole money thing seems like the most boring and draining project. So I can never focus entirely on my job because its one of those jobs that are not totally psychedelic and after a while the motivation is not there. Like the pure psychedelic vision I feel in my soul has nothing to do with my job and the money world and all that shit. It’s a totally different feeling. But then again I depend on money for survival.
Anyways, I am betting on following my heart but I was wondering if anybody else has a similar struggle sometimes.
I too agree with your thoughts.
"But then again I depend on money for survival"
These are your words and they are right. We all do need money for a lower needs. And only after that we can start being 'spirtual' or even start talking/thinking about it.
Money is just a utility. Its upto us if we use it to just make more and more money & hoard it or use it for having fun also.
Infact even to enjoy psytrance parties we need money and resources. Staying in the middle is the key. There is no substitute for work
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Posted : Apr 4, 2009 04:08
yes I feel the same way sometimes, it's a very difficult balance to achieve. If you want to live the modern lifestyle you need money. I say spend time and energy accumulating money and then youll be able to do whatever it is you want very comfortably.
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I remember feeling that way once. I love music. It has been a big thing in my life. BUT it is just music. It is not everything. I still turn the stereo up and have a little dance on my own from time to time.
Someone started a thread (on a different forum) about life changing albums. I don't have one. I bought my first vinyl 19 years ago. I have a few now!! but not one of them has changed my life. There are so many other things that have had more of an impact on my life. I am not saying don't follow your heart, just ask yourself if a goa melody is really the answer?
once people see/realize the other side of the story, i guess everyone feels the same... u just gotta balance it carefully for the moment and hang on and not give in to the greediness and too much temptation of rbad things, and time will come soon when all things are gonna be alright and anything is possible, even ur dream... so dream on bro for the moment and make it happen when time comes... ?
well depends on wat u believe,. either it cud be very soon or depending on ur karma, whenever it permits but i guess eventually everyone will get there at some point... depends entirely on urself...
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but i guess eventually everyone will get there at some point... depends entirely on urself...