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Trance dying in the USA - the little life it had.
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Basilisk
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Posted : Dec 6, 2002 18:48
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have some faith people... if you believe so strongly that trance is dying maybe it will...
hmm i think i've been paying much attention to shahar's sig for years now  but they are wise words indeed... |
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I.D.a.N
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Posted : Dec 6, 2002 20:57
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In some places it is already dead.
In L.A. we used to have a party at least once a month with the biggest stars (infected, S.U.N project, X-dream, Astral) , but not any more.
All the good orginizers are gone, and most people got sick of bad parties. |
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Apocalypse Now
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Posted : Dec 6, 2002 21:07
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in LA just like in New York they went for the easy buck by making club parties instead of outdoors. How come in San Francisco they can make 2 good parties every weekend and not in LA?
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Basilisk
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Posted : Dec 6, 2002 22:46
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don't mistake huge parties with overseas headliners for the whole scene
this widespread chicken little syndrome is starting to irritate me...
no need to be so fatalistic... |
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shahar
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Posted : Dec 7, 2002 10:50
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Yep, good trance parties have nothing to do with stars, big names and big crowds. They can be there but their definitely not the heart of it all.
My best parties had none of the above.
And good parties for sure have nothing to do with clubs...
C'mon ppl the US is HUGE, you can find you good spot and make great small tribal parties. Be the DJs, be the dancers, be the decorators- pass a hat in the end- you'll have great fun.
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krelm
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Posted : Dec 7, 2002 22:25
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I am extremely sorry to hear that Gilles is done with throwing parties...he was a nice guy that worked his ass off, spent countless hours and dollars to help push psytrance in NYC.
That being said, I personally think that the sentiment expressed by so many that trance in the US is dying or going downhill is a complete load of shit.
I remember in 1995 when I was first into the trance scene and looking for parties in the states, there was very little. To put it mildly.
San Francisco and NYC had it going on, but that was IT. There was *maybe* the occasional party in another city in California or the northeast, but absolutely nothing in between (and there is a LOT of cities and space in between). Trust me, I spent many many hours looking unsuccessfully until I finally gave up and started making my own damn parties. 
Look at it now. You have parties all over the country....Texas, the northwest (Seattle/Portland), Colorado, Kansas, North Carolina, Boston, Pennsylvania, Georgia, Rhode Island, Maryland, Mississippi, Louisiana, etc. I know I have left several areas out.
And of course San Francisco has as strong a community as ever and it's not exactly like ALL parties in NYC have stopped either....there are just not 2-3 per month with the big names (cry me a friggin' river:)). For every city that has a temporary slow-down in their psytrance scene such as LA, you see 3-4 more pop up in another part of the country.
Another facet....
5-7 years ago, there were virtually no psytrance labels in the states (aside from maybe a couple that put out one or two releases that got no notice). Now there are several labels releasing music that is internationally acclaimed. I guarantee you will see 2-3 more like these come around in the 12 months. I am also seeing more and more american artists pop up on comps in other continents.
Just because one very prominent party organizer in one corner of the country stops throwing parties doesn't say a damn thing about anything in the other 99.5% of the country. The US is HUGE. Don't expect psytrance to catch on like a wildfire. That is the surest way to see it implode upon itself. Just because there is no Voov or huge 5000+ parties with international names all the time doesn't mean that there aren't countless smaller community-based parties every weekend all over the country.
Not everybody can make parties like Synthetic Sadhus did....it took a lot of money and connections. But just about anybody can gather some friends, a small sound system, and jam out in somebody's living room or in the woods. THAT is the foundation of a psytrance community, not 1000+ people and Alien Project in an expensive venue.
Heh...ironic I am driven to go off like this when I don't even live in the states anymore.
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I.D.a.N
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Posted : Dec 7, 2002 23:12
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I don't know about NY, but I do know its VERY hard to get a permit for an outdoor party from any local athourity in Los-Angeles county.
Indoor Parties can be nice too, if the place is nice and conferrable. If people will enjoy going to parties again, the scene in L.A. will come back to life very easily. |
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alienfreaksho:)
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Posted : Dec 7, 2002 23:48
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ahh whats going on in the world is clouding the love vibration! psy is NOT dead in the states..its hard but continues on..here is sf is a scene...its not easy throwing parties there are probs with the law just like anywhere else plus house blares on...but there is the spirit..the sf outdoor parties this year have been just as amazing as the worldparties...sure many people dont know the music but if you do try and spread your knowledge..no point getting down on whats wrong..i did that for sometime and instead of complaining decided to get invovled with throwing parties..if you see something wrong try and add love and light to it..maybe more can get it and we can all vibrate higher:) im sorry about the sadhus since they vibrated int he true spirit..its time EVERYONE remebered why we are here...
big peace and love!
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