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___Salton
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Posted : Jun 21, 2001 23:46:14
Hello Brothers and Sisters...

I just wonderd do u think that the trance scene
is going towards the psy trnace
of going towards the old classic (And Best) Goa Trance??

I ask it because I think that the artists started to
understand that most of the trance listeners
is Israel prefer old good melodic goa trance instead of
hard sounds...........

There is no need to say that I Prefer The Goa Trance..

But I Will be happy to read your opinion..........

Hom Nahama Shivia !!!
___huga_genoration
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Posted : Jun 22, 2001 02:53:28
the truth i really like the new kind of hard trance cuz it's morwe fun to "dig" with but for morning the nice melodic of goa trance is great
___shay
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Posted : Jun 22, 2001 09:43:57

I prefer the new trance , it's more progressive and live than the old goa trance, BUT there r some amazing traces u cant forget :)

boom
___Ohm_Nam_Shivaya
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Posted : Jun 22, 2001 10:43:57
Let's just say that At this moment we are at an intersection between the end of Goa trance and the progression of minimal techno (from goa trance). But lately i noticed an interesting phenomenon, - goa trance is slowly starting to dominate again, and people (mostly in israel "empire of trance") seem to be getting interested in goa again. And well, as far as the trance scene is concerned, what happens in israel with trance, somehow affects the rest of the world, goa started in israel, and look what impact it had on europe.
If you want to read more about this PARTICULAR subject, browse the forum (gets quite interesting), you'll find that THIS subject was discussed ALOT, there are many debates about this subject too.
BOM!!

np: noise maker.
___Banzi
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Posted : Jun 22, 2001 16:44:52
Sorry to tell you this Alex but here in israel the new style is dominating. i guess ppl here needed a change and the swedish sounds was just what was missing. i love this change! :)

PLUR
___NaFTa
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Posted : Jun 22, 2001 16:54:29
i don't think that the trance will go back again to the classic, since music always changes.
maybe it'll use the classic as a resource/inspiration for making new kind of trance.
personally, i think that the new sound of trance (for example: swedish) is really interesting, that's why so many swedes are praised right now (ticon, son kite, noma...)
israeli trance is changing and getting more sophisticated and mature and i like it. i think that pretty soon the israeli artists will be at the center of focus along side with the swedes (and maybe without the swedes :-) )

bye bye
___Ohm_Nam_Shivaya
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Posted : Jun 22, 2001 21:38:52
well, benny, there's two sides to everything. We seem to go into a discussion every time the "style" subject comes up, i personally think that israel seems to take it back a bit,
imagine, tomorrow AP come up with a killer album, which ofcouse will be in the GOA style, but let's assume it will be a real "kick ass" goa album. So, people won't buy because it's goa? you think they will like it less than the minimalizm? I personally have a theory which dosn't have anything to do with "styles" and all that, you see, israeli trance which was mainly "goa" was dominated by all "those goa artists" i won't mention names, i'm tired of mentioning names, now all these artists are either working on some BIG project, since we haven't heard from them, or they don't do music anymore, and when something kicks out, something else kicks in, (it's a law of nature), and when suddenly all those artists kicked out, alternatives came, those alternatives are the "today" trance, now when someone will come out with a big time CD which is goa style, i bet some people in this forum who say "goa is gone now it's minimal", will take their words back.
I don't want to argue, all this message is just (IMHO).
BOM!!

___Salton
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Posted : Jun 22, 2001 21:53:18
To Alex I Just Wanted To Say That I Agree With You ..
I Your Words Are Words That should be Written again & Again..
I Also Wanted To remind everyone :
With Goa We Came And With Goa We Will Leave..........
___TrancEisT
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Posted : Jun 22, 2001 22:26:17
nice point of view alex.
i agree...

i have no more to add for now, let me think some more.
___huga_genoration
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Posted : Jun 22, 2001 22:37:06
i think that the change is for the best cuz the trance always had a prinsiple that it's the most new music there is and it cant be stuck in one point all the time . i think that we can combine between the goa old style and the new progressive style and that will be the best thing to do
___Ohm_Nam_Shivaya
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Posted : Jun 23, 2001 06:31:16
with goa we came and with goa we will leave.. indeed.
a combination between goa and todays sound is something i am trying to do, but still i seem to tend to the original style, are there artists that combine these two styles today?

You see, trance.. trance is a soundform.
you can't express music with words properly.. music is to be heard and expressed by emotion.

BOM!!!
___Banzi
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Posted : Jun 23, 2001 18:02:02
Alex, first of all i wanna say i like to argue with you, you make good points and make the disscussion interesting, and of course everything is said with good spirit :)

Now, i didn't mean the "new" style is the only style around, but it's the dominating style right now, ppl tend to listen to it more than to goa. and goa will never go away, you're right about that, IF a new cd will come out with good music "a-la goa" it will sale and bring ppl back to the music, not like the old times but it will. the problem is that today most of the artists creat more minimal music without melodies and the ones who do goa music doesn't do it very good... and because of that the dominating style has changed, there's nothing to do about it except trying to enjoy it (i know i do!:))
give it a chance alex, don't stay "stuck" in goa, you can listen to a few styles, there's nothing wrong about that. :)

PLUR
___NaFTa
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Posted : Jun 23, 2001 18:14:36
hello, i just wanna say that the new style is expending because new artists help expend it and ,well, creating minimalism is easier, imho, than creating melody. that's why every kid with a synth (just an expression :-)) can create a rather nice minimalistic track.
i think goa melodies are more complicated then that, and that's why its dissappearing - lack of time and energy.

bye bye
___MichaelA
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Posted : Jun 23, 2001 19:51:16
Creating minimalistic tracks without melodies is for technicians like IM said in their interview. This is no music - only beats.

[i]np: Man With No Name - Sugar Rush (Refined Mix)[/i] - Let's see those techies make something like this.
___PsyTom
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Posted : Jun 23, 2001 20:58:10
Greetings all,

I just wanted to say that i agree with Alex and Alon N, with one correction: Creating minimalistic tracks is not easy at all! You need a lot of knowledge, creatively, time and money so IMHO, not "any kid with a synth" can create GOOD minimalistic tracks.

I do believe Goa will be back, because a lot of ppl who hadn't been exposed to trance would be exposed to it in a certain phase, then they will search for more "pleasant" trance, which is the goa style. The sudden interest in goa would attract many artist to start creating and releasing goa tracks (of course, artists who usually create goa music, like AP, would also release new tracks/albums), and then goa will be back big time!
BTW, the minimalistic/progressive style would not disappear, because it has its fans, and because not all ppl are attracted to melodies.

P.S 1 - This message included my own personal opinion and only it.

P.S 2 - I love the discussions in this forum :-)! There're so interesting and peaceful.
I love this community!

Tom.
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