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maux
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Posted : May 14, 2006 17:42
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yep TmcK voice samples are defenetly overused...and I am part of this since I also used some of his words in one of my tunes almost 3 years ago, but I can say that I was more interested in the meaning of those words than in the sound of his voice that can be sometime irritating for me too. and when I recently remixed that tune for a compilation and finally released it, I had the intention to take off those samples...but instead I left them there with respect beacuse still really pregnant and significant.
I agree with you Capsula...Alan Watts is a delight, I used it too...and I could easily overuse it...every time I listen to his speeches I am tempted to sample it and do a new tune with it...tnx to him and his inspiring irresistible force. I will porbably not use anymore TmcK acidic voice anymore (or maybe yes...) but I still think he was brave and alone in his time and his books are mile stones of the rediscovery of shamanism. His message is still powerful...even if the repeating use of it may make it sound uncool to the A&Rs (I would actually love to ear even Madonna using it). The media are very smart in their opera of silencing and omogenizing...big up to all the ironic voices of difference. |
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Bom*shankar
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Posted : May 14, 2006 19:27
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For me what matters with samples is if the sample fit in with the music and the general feel of the track and that's it. In general simplifing drug samples are kinda borin for me. But there are still many good stuff.
When a sample inspires a track you can hear it easily.
Also you can hear when its just a gimik.... |
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djomshanti
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Posted : May 15, 2006 01:22
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On 2006-05-03 22:57, Capsula wrote:
I used alot of speech samples in my tracks some of terrance more of Alan Watts , David Icke , some from movies like Mullholand drive
others from BBC programs and radio shows of Art bell.
I usually use it to capture somekind of message that i identify with and relate to. the truth is that terrence was practicly alone in this genre and even today when the PSY is so much "developed" industry i can't find explorers of this realm from the same kind that also come forward and tour ,lecture , teach(hint to Sasha Shulgin). what i used from terrence included 2 topics i saw were not sampled in electronic music- information theory and 2012, not drugs related like most samples. as for alan watts i think his voice is just perfect for psychill and trance and also his Zen lectures really makes you think.
now i find myslef using less speech samples and i probably wont sample terrence but i still think its a tool for information transfer.
Peace,
Yosi
p.s
does anyone have interesting Carlos Castandea recordings?
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I agree 100% can even be a media of the moment when diffused. Capsula i'm listening to ''out there somewhere'' right now.. !It's one of a chill album man  listening and listening.. Your choice of samples is fantastic really.
I like to add samples on my sets, especially when there's a turntable. Or even field recordings.. There's A LOT! of samples out there 
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PKS
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Posted : May 15, 2006 19:33
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I am among those who think that mcKenna samples are a bit overused. I have actually asked an artist to cut out McKenna samples, before I will release his track...
Anyway, is chill out more psychedelic than before? No, I don't think so. I find the Orb, several KLF releases and ambient by Schulze and other peioneers etc back to the 70's as psychedelic as todays psychill...
But, I actually find more interesting chill now than ever before. While in my opinion psytrance has gone downwards from the mid 90's, ambient/chillout/dub etc has gone an oppsite direction. I find a lot of chill out compilations etc flooding the scene these days pretty bad and uninteresting (I will not mention names), still I think we have more talented chill producers now than ever before. Orb was one of the pioneers though, inspiring most of the ambient artists to come....
What I really don't understand is those who says that too much sounds like Shpongle these days. I remember when I first heard Shpongle, I was wishing more artists could make music like this. Three Shpongle albums is not enough for a hungry music freak like me... People has even blamed Entheogenic and Shulman for copying the style of Shpongle, but in my opinion they haven't listened closely enough if they state this... Offcourse they have got inspiration from Shpongle, still they are very different and does it in their own way.
If you start seeing it like that, all ambient producers today are copying the style of early ambient producers in the 70's and 80's... And who did they get inspiration from in the 70's? I guess from 50's-60's German/French krautrock... I don't blame them, as long as the music is great..
PKS
Ops, I gues I gave my reply to this topic too now:
http://forum.isratrance.com/viewtopic.php/topic/87644/forum/10
CHILL TRIBE
CTRCD01 QUALITY RELAXATION
CTRCD02 RELAXED JOURNEYS
CTRCD03 EAR PLEASURE
CTRCD04 WOMBATMUSIC - Shameful Silence
CTRCD05 POLYPLOID - Grow Your Own
CTRCD06 IAN ION - Gringo Locomotion
CTRCD07 SUNKINGS - Before We Die |
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The Green Channel
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Posted : May 16, 2006 14:16
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I think a lot of people who are mainly part of Psy-Trance scene and not the psychedelic scene - mostly don’t understand Terence McKenna (let alone his advanced use of the English vocabulary). Thus, most of his samples sound like strange gibberish for most people involved in THIS scene – god knows, when I first heard a tape of his, I didn’t understand half of it – many words which I hadn’t heard before and strange notions which one needs to experience - prior to understanding.
"Love is a way of life"
(Gaia, Love, Nature, Shamanism (.2A.y.0a.hu.1a.sc.2a.), Terence McKenna) |
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g/\8!
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Posted : May 17, 2006 14:03
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hello thanks for giving your opinions....the other day i saw WORLDSPIRIT by alex grey and kenji williams..............very good and very psychedelic...............................................and the only time i liked to hear terence is in a f.s.o.l remix for the shamen(remember those?)called re-iteration....fantastic..................................ciao |
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Quasga
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Posted : May 19, 2006 09:29
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On 2006-05-16 14:16, The Green Channel wrote:
I think a lot of people who are mainly part of Psy-Trance scene and not the psychedelic scene - mostly don’t understand Terence McKenna (let alone his advanced use of the English vocabulary). Thus, most of his samples sound like strange gibberish for most people involved in THIS scene – god knows, when I first heard a tape of his, I didn’t understand half of it – many words which I hadn’t heard before and strange notions which one needs to experience - prior to understanding.
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Agreed. 
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