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tired of forced psychedelia
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g/\8!
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Posted : May 2, 2006 20:26
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i want to ask something...why are so many people using terence mckeena voice for sampling?in the last 3 years at least each new psy chill album i listen to comes with the same and same and same introductions of terence sarcastic voice...well i am tired....people are free to use what they want but maybe people are forcing psychedelia when they get stuck to rigid definitions about it,please there are so many movies so many voices(including yours)so many pieces of life to sample!!!!get more imaginative... people in techno scene and idm minimal scene ARE DOING IT.PSYCHEDELIA IS MUTABLE not static,so what you think about it?....sorry for the pertinence.....................peace |
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MercuryFall
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Posted : May 2, 2006 21:14
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andrew interchill
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Posted : May 3, 2006 02:59
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if something is conventional or easily predictable then chances are it is not psychedelic...
unexpectedness is the key... doorways into other facets of the same thing...
and yes... we've come to expect terrence's nasal voice
to me, tunes on US label the agriculture, for example, are way more out there than conventional psy... there's no way to predict what's going to happen next... |
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Begemot
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Posted : May 3, 2006 07:50
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On 2006-05-03 02:59, andrew interchill wrote:
if something is conventional or easily predictable then chances are it is not psychedelic...
unexpectedness is the key... doorways into other facets of the same thing...
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Exactly  Many people try to figure out what psychedelic is looking in its history and analizing the past, and I would call psychedelic that , which still isn't. 
do.create. do.not.repeat.
nevertheless, it's inevitable to miss it hahahahah :
" People are not macines, but they tend to act like machines " ( you know who said it  )
So my advice : Stop tending to it!
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BrettFromTibet
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Posted : May 3, 2006 08:47
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Good point!
I am finding myself attracted to subtler psychedelic design concepts in music, art and clothes. No more Dali posters and Space Tribe fluro jackets. No more fast goa. I'm like my textures and mind spaces to be chill and subtle as my life gets more complex.
If there is a mix with some kind of voice sample trying to "force" psychedelia - I am likely to eject the CD or delete the track. Show me, don't tell me - with music!
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djsoma
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Posted : May 3, 2006 19:04
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On 2006-05-03 02:59, andrew interchill wrote:
to me, tunes on US label the agriculture, for example, are way more out there than conventional psy... there's no way to predict what's going to happen next...
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I found two Agriculture Records in US, but I think you mean this one http://www.theagriculture.com/ ... all but Sub Dub are unknown to me before. Can you suggest something to get started with this label's sound? Thanx for the tip!
 http://musicandhappylife.blogspot.com/
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pete
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Posted : May 3, 2006 19:23
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Just go to the store link and check out all the free mp3s.
If you've heard dissolving clouds, then you've heard a lunchbox track.
If you've heard Beneath the Surfact, then you've heard David Last.
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Pete Pan
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Posted : May 3, 2006 22:53
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Agriculture is very nice..I'm really feeling the way that downbeattempo is going, I feel that Native State has really stepped up to bat and is ushering in a fresh new outlook on (psy) downbeat. Upon reading a Bluetech interview I found BoomKat www.boomkat.com (a online record store) what I found was a whole new perspective on chill. Stuff like Yasume, Tipper, An Album Leaf...this stuff has very nice melodic idm..not bagging on stuff like Autechre and Squarepusher, but this melodic stuff is brilliant in my eyes. Some of this stuff is like a total grab bag of styles and sounds...dub, idm, drumNbass, minimal techno all rolled up into a nice downtempo spliff. I don't know I just think its cool to find something that gives you a fresh aspect to an old love
Lobogistic labs
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Capsula
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Posted : May 3, 2006 22:57
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I used alot of speech samples in my tracks some of terrance more of Alan Watts , David Icke , some from movies like Mullholand drive
others from BBC programs and radio shows of Art bell.
I usually use it to capture somekind of message that i identify with and relate to. the truth is that terrence was practicly alone in this genre and even today when the PSY is so much "developed" industry i can't find explorers of this realm from the same kind that also come forward and tour ,lecture , teach(hint to Sasha Shulgin). what i used from terrence included 2 topics i saw were not sampled in electronic music- information theory and 2012, not drugs related like most samples. as for alan watts i think his voice is just perfect for psychill and trance and also his Zen lectures really makes you think.
now i find myslef using less speech samples and i probably wont sample terrence but i still think its a tool for information transfer.
Peace,
Yosi
p.s
does anyone have interesting Carlos Castandea recordings? |
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Begemot
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Posted : May 4, 2006 07:33
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It's a good moment to thank you for your outstanding album, Yosi
And having started such a discussion, about psychedelia and so on, what do you think of creating a section of this or some other highly international forum for cultural/metaphysical discussions? Our forum in Bulgaria @ http://www.ouim.org does have such and many are writing there, since it's obvious trance people
are interested in such topics, but I've always dreamt of an international discussion on topics like reality, time, being, and so on. And I think Isratrance is the right place, since it's the most international, and all of you, my beloved trance artists are here
A proposal to the administrators. |
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Infected_FreAk
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Posted : May 4, 2006 07:45
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On 2006-05-04 07:33, Begemot wrote:
It's a good moment to thank you for you outstanding album, Yosi
And having started such a discussion, about psychedelia and so on, what do you think of creating a section of this or some other highly international forum for cultural/metaphysical discussions? Our forum in Bulgaria @ http://www.ouim.org does have such and many are writing there, since it's obvious trance people
are interested in such topics, but I've always dreamt of an international discussion ot topics like reality, time, being, and so on. And I think isratrance is the right place, since it's the most international, and all of you, my beloved trance artists are here
A proposal to the administrators.
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http://www.breakingopenthehead.com/#
also http://deoxy.org/forum/index.pl |
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Begemot
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Posted : May 4, 2006 07:52
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Infected_Freak, thanks, the forums are cool, I was sure some do exist, but my idea is to put such a section at a place, visited everyday by trance ppl, and it is only Isratrance that could fit such a requirement.
To gather all the information@ one single place! |
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McKennaDMT
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Posted : May 4, 2006 21:56
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I was happy to see Androcell use some Robert Anton Wilson samples in his newest album.
I agree that McKenna's voice is used way too much these days, but he was also the biggest name in psychedelia for years. I still get a little smile whenever I hear his voice in a great song. Like most of Entheogenic's use of his voice. What I don't get is why are most of the same samples of his voice used? He has hours upon hours of lecture series out there. You'd think you wouldn't ever hear the same samples... |
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furthur
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Posted : May 9, 2006 17:51
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what i like on androcell's efflorescence is that the samples are not just inserted at random into the songs, they fit really well into the surrounding sounds.
nothing forced here
pure psychedelia
played 2 pieces from that cd in a set on saturday and both times, people were coming up asking what was playing
(also came up to ask about shulman's remix of ya bouy)
Load Universe into Cannon. Aim at Brain. Fire.
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The Green Channel
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Posted : May 13, 2006 00:14
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Terence McKenna's voice is undoubtedly (IMHO) the most interesting, psychedelic and mind-blowing voice, I have ever encountered - more Terence samples please. I listen to his tapes on regular basis; I never get tired of his enchanting voice, humor nor his delicious ideas. I only wish I could acquire more of his tapes – I only have about 80 of them. While studying boring intellectual concepts, created by boring individuals – McKenna’s intellectual insights always keep me motivated.
"Love is a way of life"
(Gaia, Love, Nature, Shamanism (.2A.y.0a.hu.1a.sc.2a.), Terence McKenna) |
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