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Posted : Mar 14, 2003 20:04
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I just wanted to tip my hat to trance artists... not because of the music they make, because that would be too obvious... i would like to point out the fact that when trance artists make diffrent kinds of music, meaning not the usual sound you expect from someone, they call themselves something else. this is true justice to the fans in my opinion. for example, when simon p is making music as hallucinogen, you know what type of product youre expecting, when he does dub or anything else, he is called anubis, or various other names. i believe this is done for the fans in some way, just so we know what to expect and not be taken back and upset that we spent $$ on a product we didnt want. This is a serious extension of respect to the fans.... an example to show the other side of this reminds me of Metallica in the 90's. growing up on Metallica in the 80's a certain "sound" was expected and maintained up to the black album, after that it changed and was lost. many fans were upset with the new sound (me) and stopped listening to them. i beleive that if Metallica truly respected its fans, it wouldve change its project name to something else, since the music has changed in a significant manner. If they wanted to make more "Metallica" music style songs, they can re-use it whenever. I'm not saying artists cant grow or develop, but i truly appreciate the way trance artists approach this issue, simply by changing their name. i can come up with many examples here on this. anyone feel me here? or have i been experimenting with potions too much? 
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Posted : Mar 14, 2003 20:16
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I agree with you. It's a way of respecting the fans, this way fans knows what style they're buying...
Another example is Sesto Sento and Ferby Boys...
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nobody_3
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Posted : Mar 14, 2003 21:23
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It's not really out of respect to the fans even though I agree in most of what you're saying.
One of the main reasons why we change project names is so we have more freedom to express ourselves in different directions without being put into a box or genre. It's also got something to do with the fact that most projects outside our "main" project are done with other artists and that give a basis for another project name. It's just easier this way.
But ofcourse it's cool that people knwo what to expect when they buy a artists/group's CD. |
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monno
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Posted : Mar 15, 2003 01:27
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making music i also about evolution and progresion.
not stagnation!
take gms par example do they make the same music they did 5 years ago???? no they don´t.
they evolved for better or for worse(which is a whole other discussion) you do have a point though. take the psychopod "headlines" ep mmmm very nice. now the following releases from psychopod are not the same style and is more similar to koxbox. it´s fair to say i was a little dissapointed(except for lunar bin on the great unknown)people and their tastes change same with musicians. i guess we just have to move on if it changes into something we don´t like or alternatively start making the music we wanna hear.
and yeah metallica´s "black album" did suck balls compared to the earlier albums, but they are now richer than ever. go figure!
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DeathPosture
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Posted : Mar 15, 2003 01:42
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I agree pretty much with what have been said... But sometimes artists don't change their names when they should have... Take for instance the Total Eclipse album "Access Denied"... The music is fine, break-beat-style, it's just not what you associate with Total Eclipse, and I'm sure that has left a lot of people dissapointed... They should have relased that album under a different alias...
Also, the new Tim Schuldt album, First Error Code, is a pretty hefty departure from his usual style... Technically, he did change his name for this album, as it is released just as "Schuldt", but still...
Hope I make sense here!?
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shahar
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Posted : Mar 15, 2003 15:15
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Is it really respect?
Could be artists think that trance fans can't take a change (which is probably mostly right)?
It's very personal I guess. Anyway, I personally like to be surprised, of course not all surprises are good, but that's part of the fun.
Another popular reason for multiple names is releasing more stuff in many labels without breaking contract. This is not very respectful for sure.
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nobody_3
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Posted : Mar 15, 2003 15:31
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Yes shahar is rigth here
Many artist have signed exclusive contracts (running 3-5 years) with one label and therefore can't release on any other labels with the "main" project names or even their own personal names.
That's also a reason why they use different project names and indeed change their own personal names on the release. I know i did when i released Sheyba with Jean Borelli.
I signed a contract when I was "green" and hungry to get a recording deal and when I woke up and realized that i could not release with anyone else beside the label then my only chance to release a different style of music than Elysium was to do it under another project name and personal name...... So it had not at all anything to do with respect for people that bought the music. But all to do with my freedom as an artist to be able to release my music when i wanted to and where I wanted to. |
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Posted : Mar 15, 2003 19:03
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Dovla
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Posted : Mar 16, 2003 03:08
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I don't think that it's always necessary for an artist to change his name....look at infected mushroom for instance. They change their sound with every album. In this kind of scene most people will listen to stuff before they buy it. Most people will read a review about it, that's why labels send out promos. So djs and promoters can give them feedback before it's released. So that for instance when someone goes to a shop to buy a cd he will read about it before on the net and he will also give it a proper listen in the shop. We are not in such a massive scene where people don't know what they are buying.
But then on the other hand I support artists who change their name according to style because of what EP said....they want to move their sound in more directions.
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KosMos
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Posted : Mar 16, 2003 14:16
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I liked my bubble about respect and it popped.
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hahahaha!! poor boy...
all i can add to this is that more project names may make an artist feel more "complete" in a way..
of course this depends if you are an opened-minded and versatile artist..
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nobody_3
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Posted : Mar 16, 2003 16:52
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Yeah poor boy
Well don't despair totally...
Of course there should be some respect from the artists to the people listening to and buying (those who actually buy music) the music and most artists that i know of do respect their "fans" and know that without them it would not be possible to release their music. So yes we do respect you a lot. I in this case just feel that I want to make the music that i feel is right for me. No matter if it's under Elysium Project or any other name I choose. Afterall if I don't make the music I like to make my music would not be honest and you would know too. |
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Young&Twisted
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Posted : Mar 17, 2003 17:08
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i think thay take not like others artist in music that have ppl that work for the fan the artist in trance is not looking on the fan from high view of ponit they look in ours eyes
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Posted : Mar 17, 2003 18:37
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Gilad Refael
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Posted : Mar 17, 2003 18:41
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he meant that trance artists aren't like other artists. they don't look at the fan from a high point of view.
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