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klippel
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Posted : Oct 10, 2011 21:27
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PoM
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Posted : Oct 10, 2011 22:31
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look nice , how much it cost? i guess it s expensive audient stuff is not cheap .
but i doubt these desk have lot of personalty with great eq i could be wrong...if sound is very clean for the same price maybe one could buy gears that would make more difference sonically (maybe 2 neve or api chanels or there is loads of stereo comps and eq with caractere)
on the not super expensive there is the oram T desks that sound good but oram seems not company with good suport and not so great built in quality. |
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Posted : Oct 11, 2011 01:18
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about the culture vulture noise floor ,from the manual its lower than -83db below mol(dunno what it means)on typical settings for balanced version and -75db for the unbalanced.
the bias knob is noisy when adjusting it but after it come back to normal
thd from o.2 to 98% lol |
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Nectarios
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Posted : Oct 11, 2011 08:48
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Posted : Oct 11, 2011 11:10
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damn that focusrite controller seems really great but it s so expensive ! for that money you can buy a desk that was costing proably around 20 000/50 000 $ 30 years ago and it may sound ten time 10 better but no integration in daw and you need a good technician lol
something like a old studer desk ,sonically if you are after good caractere it will piss on lot of the newer stuff |
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Posted : Oct 11, 2011 11:21
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I've had a 24channel Spirit Studio 8 buss and a 32 channel Mackie 8 buss in the UK. you don't need any intergration in the mixer, all the automation you can perform on the DAW. The added intergratin part of analogue mixers, adds a lot to the cost price.
The thing about older mixers is that the ones that are worth splashing out for, are very old adn unless I had a lot of free time and access to any parts that might need replacing, I would steer clear from them. you can't try out things you find on ebay and it would cost a fortune to ship it to where I am.
Hence why I look into new summing boxes and pres. They'll last longer most probably and with such amounts of money involved, I would not take any chances.
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PoM
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Posted : Oct 11, 2011 11:34
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yes true same hassle as vintage synths except the price didn t inflate as much.
just one piece of gear used on many track can already give something really nice . |
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Posted : Oct 11, 2011 11:53
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Agreed. Having the Vulture will help heaps when you pass/track synths through. It won't perform miracles on digital/soft synths, i.e. it will not make them sound like an analogue synth, but it will make them sound like really good digital/soft synths. My Virus TI sounds 10x better through my mate's Neve 1073 DPD pre, UA Blackface and GML EQ
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Posted : Oct 11, 2011 12:10
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yeah on 5/10 tracks playing at same time it could make a nice difference ,it s capable of a big range of color it seems so i guess its effect won t stack up and make the mix muddy. it could maybe replace the need of any other tubes gears for my needs but i didn t buy it to really use it in music, i will but i dont make much music these days,i will use it mostly for some sounds librairie with my other gears and i ll try it for mastering but i doubt it will really shine for this aplication on psytrance but who know ! i have read it can sound fast and punchy or rather slow depending the settings, hope it s true. |
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klippel
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Posted : Oct 13, 2011 07:25
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i have been reading a lot on the summing boxes trend nowadays, my conclusion is that it will not yield the console sound in one step process as you would want it to happen as far as the feedback throughout the net is. a very good read is that topic on gearslutz:
http://www.gearslutz.com/board/high-end/57113-neve-ssl-api-console-summing-vs-summing-box-summing.html
yes, it is a long read, but it IS an eye opener for me. will not go for one of the "early" summing boxes right now and will have a look what comes up in the next year or two.
that said, i am still VERY much interested how that vulture thingy give colouration to a mix, so bring it ON pom 
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"I've always been a believer in musical repetition to draw in the listener and make the music hypnotic. Another thing I believe in is repetition." Alan Parsons |
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Posted : Oct 13, 2011 15:02
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i hope the store will call me soon lol ..
i have summing already convered in digital, are you on mac? metric halo mio mixer with the caractere work really nice to add analog shine , it s subblte and detailed,very nice for today sound. i discussed on gearslutz with some guys that have lot of gears and ditched exensive analog summing box for the metric halo one cause they get better sound with it.
i think harrison mixbus is great too with the eq saturation and maybe a little of compression but a bit a pain in the ass to use.
both are probably not as good as the nicerizer but still good ...to me summing can be great but it s like a luxury something like the culture vulture will make way more drastic chnage into a tune as it can be used very subblte for a little warming to total abuse in a artistic way.
also a good eq with a sound caractere you really enjoy will make way more difference than summng imo .
when you boost it can really enhance your sound and give a great analog shine, sliky highs and thick low end... |
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Posted : Oct 13, 2011 19:37
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Posted : Oct 20, 2011 12:25
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its better built than i thought, look great but still have a kind of experimental project vibe to it love it. it s capable of lot of different tone.. it can do so much different sound that sound good that you spend lot of time to find wich one sound best...remind me the distressor for that.. sometimes it s good thing sometiems not
twisted a little the knob for a first try... it seemes it crap out very fast on high frequency signal or maybe i haven t find right setting,as i said there is so much possibility, all the sample should peak lower than the dry i tried to get loudness not so far too
also i used just one chanel for this test, i guess using the 2 open the sound.
all sample are on the subblte side even if it can do way more subbtle. u can save by right click i guess
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5107801/Cv/Dry44100.aif
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5107801/Cv/Triode%20love44100.aif
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5107801/Cv/Warmer44100.aif
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5107801/Cv/Overdrive44100.aif
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5107801/Cv/P244100.aif
i think i m gonna love this thing,it s pure goodness ,love how it compress the sound and the transients with the bias , you can peak few db less but it sound just more polished and ready to sit in the mix ,can t wait to try it in a tune i think it will sound mega huge and will go mega loud hahah
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PoM
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Posted : Oct 20, 2011 12:57
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PoM
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Posted : Oct 20, 2011 13:27
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will uplaod more sample later on some drums |
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