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astrotec
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Posted : Sep 26, 2007 01:01
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i havn't used a behringer compressor, but i don't like any of behringers products but thats only my opinion. others might think different. if your using outboard equipment you need a worthy converter for it.
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pipe&slippers
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Posted : Sep 26, 2007 15:19
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I do some rough home "mastering" before sending my tunes out to people to listen and play out. Simple EQ>compressor>adaptive limiter chain.
EQ is simply a linear phase high pass filter (I don't like EQing the mix, I simply sort everything out at the mixing stage) at around 35Hz, unless my fundamental note is a C, so I set it around 30Hz, compressor has a low ratio (like 1.5:1), soft knee, moderate attack, release and a low threshold so I get to "gell" the mix a bit.
Then the adaptive limiter takes care of the loudness. I don't look at gain reduction meters, just push the input at a setting, right before I hear too many limiting side effects. Works good enough for me.
Obviously I send an unprocessed version of the stereo file to the mastering house. There are far better monitors, acoustics, gear and most importantly, people, for the job at Heathmans. |
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Elad
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Posted : Sep 27, 2007 00:56
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for my opinion best way to record will be like this
get the input to the compressor as close to 0 as u can around -2 db will be ideal
adjust the compressor setting (wheather it can act as brickwall depend on the model) so the output is as close to 0 again
record on 32 bits , then dither to 16 bit.
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Andreh
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Posted : Sep 28, 2007 16:58
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I´ve got very nice results whit those advices and new concepts about home mastering for me, thankz a lot about the support folks!
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frambonas
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Posted : Nov 13, 2007 17:45
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On 2007-09-27 00:56, Elad wrote:
for my opinion best way to record will be like this
get the input to the compressor as close to 0 as u can around -2 db will be ideal
adjust the compressor setting (wheather it can act as brickwall depend on the model) so the output is as close to 0 again
record on 32 bits , then dither to 16 bit.
hey,
do you mean dBu or dB full scale?
on analog mixers you can puch untill 0dB, but in you digital sequencer it's better to leave some headroom. (my opinion)
When i start projects i put everything on -9dB. To avoid any digital clipping, and then you leave more headroom for final mastering on compilation or the album.
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le barde
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Posted : Dec 7, 2007 03:00
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| When i start projects i put everything on -9dB. To avoid any digital clipping, and then you leave more headroom for final mastering on compilation or the album. |
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that's the way to do.
what tsabi said is for recording it seems. When you digitalize any signal... as much dB you use before 0, more you take advantage of the resolution per bits.
A little margin is needed to avoid digital distortion.
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Andreh
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Posted : Dec 7, 2007 15:44
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thats whats happening now, u can see in the wave form of the file, the space to the song take some air!
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JUGGERNAUT
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Posted : Jan 28, 2008 05:49
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Im just curious, is it bad if none of the instrument traks are clipping but the master is and you just turn down the master fader how does this affect the overall mix? |
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JUGGERNAUT
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Posted : Jan 28, 2008 05:52
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Also, if my final mixdown is well below 0db and I attempt to have that mastered will the siganal to noise ratio be too high?
Any good ways to check the S to N ratio? There isnt much in digital recording right? |
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WillianDiesel
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Posted : Feb 15, 2008 22:46
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for juggernaut:
If you turn down the master fader the volume will turn down, it wont affect anything else than this.
About the S/N ratio i think you should not care to this as today we have 110, 120 db of SN on the converters and 24 bits of resolution, you dont need to reach high levels to capture all the information of the sound.
As clipping goes my tip is pay attention on the kick, if the sound is clipping because of the kick there is no problem on limiting it as you prefer.
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JUGGERNAUT
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Posted : Feb 20, 2008 07:56
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Thanks, Willian! |
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frambonas
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Posted : Feb 24, 2008 12:49
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On 2008-01-28 05:52, JUGGERNAUT wrote:
Also, if my final mixdown is well below 0db and I attempt to have that mastered will the siganal to noise ratio be too high?
Any good ways to check the S to N ratio? There isnt much in digital recording right?
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If you only use digital sounds, nothing recorded with microphones, it won't effect the noise ratio, becouse there will be no noise
But i never put the master fader down, if it clips, i make a mixdown when the track is done, from all the seperate tracks, then you can give them all some less dB when you import them.
But it's not bad to do this with the master fader, I just like to do it with the seperate tracks. |
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ZenMind
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Posted : Feb 27, 2008 16:31
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Could someone advise me in a good (afordable) compressor and EQ?
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PoM
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Posted : Feb 27, 2008 18:14
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izotope ozone is aforable and very good.better it ll cost you a lot (for neutral not too much coloring plugins like algorithmix,plpareq,sonnox dynamics and limiter,psp... ) |
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piXan
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Posted : Feb 29, 2008 18:09
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anywhere care to explain whats the difference from Sonnox Oxford Inflator, to any normal limiter like waves L2? Does anyone use it (inflator) and in what part of the mastering chain u use it?
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