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The Mother of all KICK DRUMS thread

PoM
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Posted : Mar 7, 2013 21:31
strange i find sylenth was good for the usual sine pitch bend kick but after it s taste.. i find most synth i use are good/decent as long as there 3 envelops , 1 for amp, 1 for click,1 for body

with so much control we can have on the sound in software, eq can be used lightly , everyhting can be fixed more or less with synthesis , the mud area, low end and highs.
Geom3
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Posted : Mar 7, 2013 22:50
its fine dont get me wrong, it the overall filter quality of how it handles the sines i dint like, always found that i had to do more processing after to get it to punch thru a mix..

good eqs for weak kick and u wana boost yet attenuate or cut at the same time i rekon softubes Tube-tech PE 1C, waves Puig Tech EQP1A,a good ol pultek emulation or URS N series ...i found that using sylenth i would of had to include either one of them too make it punch thru for me...maybe i should teach ma self a lil better but thats the thing all the same rules apply - just sumthin about it....

but yeh obvously tweak the best u can first - without fail ul always have to eq it anyway , straight away u get confrontational witha 350-600 shitty boxy frequencies...sonnox dynamics eq deals with that region well, whilst gettin sum nice lenghlty notches in sweet spots in the lows......

have a play with sum intensive notches..

Sunrise Travellers
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Posted : Mar 7, 2013 23:01
PoM i dont know my friend...
maybe my kicks from sylenth was too plastic(?)

well now with some tweaks i made some really great...

check them out mate...
          ...into the wild....
PoM
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Posted : Mar 7, 2013 23:04
the thing is to not generate much in the mud area, a way is by using 2 synth instance , one for the attack and one for the body, that way it s easier to have really phat body .
Geom3
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Posted : Mar 7, 2013 23:06
that plastic is what i was mentioning about - no matter where u made it ul have to process it - to remove such shite and flappy as plastic, so a key to good kick is the tweak then eq then the comp....or limit - thats another thing.........so much consideration lol we all wana sound loud and punchy yet not squished to fuk.. journey thru experimentation is all yous can dooo till ya get it right..

Nice idea pom of using two for each on sylenth but still.....
BAAAAAAZZZZZZSSSIIIIIIIMMMMMM
Sunrise Travellers
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Posted : Mar 7, 2013 23:09
i agree with that man...but in the other hand from massive is more clear to tweak them...
i cant describe it

well maybe all of this is in my mind i dont know...

          ...into the wild....
PoM
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Posted : Mar 7, 2013 23:12
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On 2013-03-07 23:01, Sunrise Travellers wrote:
PoM i dont know my friend...
maybe my kicks from sylenth was too plastic(?)

well now with some tweaks i made some really great...

check them out mate...




i checked, and i find these great, but i like more wihtout disto eq ect.. just the sine pitched , it more about taste i guess.. everyone like different kicks i noticed, it s like bassline..
Geom3
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Posted : Mar 7, 2013 23:19
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On 2013-03-07 20:01, Sunrise Travellers wrote:
I was never happy with my kicks with sylenth. always something didnt like...

so...after some tweaks we made some really nice kicks with it!!
with little bit of distortion - overdrive, phaser with 0 lfo rate and gain & spread all the way up, eq and compressor.

download em here and tweak em like hell
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ig16m2h5y9zk3oc/Sunrise%20Travellers%20Sylenth%20Kicks.zip




fxb file?, thas what i was gettin at pom unfront and sqelch punchy ..bass can have the distortion instead
Sunrise Travellers
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Posted : Mar 7, 2013 23:19
yeah sure...everything is matter of taste

usualy i layer my kicks with 2-3 different kicks and maybe a hihat and this works for me very very well...
          ...into the wild....
Sunrise Travellers
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Posted : Mar 7, 2013 23:19
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On 2013-03-07 23:19, Geom3 wrote:
Quote:

On 2013-03-07 20:01, Sunrise Travellers wrote:
I was never happy with my kicks with sylenth. always something didnt like...

so...after some tweaks we made some really nice kicks with it!!
with little bit of distortion - overdrive, phaser with 0 lfo rate and gain & spread all the way up, eq and compressor.

download em here and tweak em like hell
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ig16m2h5y9zk3oc/Sunrise%20Travellers%20Sylenth%20Kicks.zip




fxb file?



yeah mate           ...into the wild....
Geom3
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Posted : Mar 7, 2013 23:21
how do i here that?
Sunrise Travellers
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Posted : Mar 7, 2013 23:22
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On 2013-03-07 23:21, Geom3 wrote:
how do i here that?



you must load them on sylenth...

menu -> right click -> load bank           ...into the wild....
Geom3
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Posted : Mar 7, 2013 23:25
oohh i c sorry preset files..my version aint openin it...never mind all the more reason not to use it
Geom3
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Posted : Mar 8, 2013 02:45
ive gone for a different plugin mixing chain than my usaull for the kick, if u like and it works then happy days.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/2r4fvbhh9zo8mf0/heavykik.wav

https://www.dropbox.com/s/l9csa26tygzx0pv/kikwivbass.wav



Geom3
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Posted : Mar 8, 2013 19:40
wow i did i fart or sumthing lol
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