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Synergic
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Posted : Nov 6, 2012 11:58
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Synergic
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Xetni
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Posted : Nov 6, 2012 21:11
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Ya, and also a thing I tried today and seems to work good is, forget all the EQ and compression and just edit the actual kick's wave. If you make it in a synth, bounce it to audio, and then edit the wave. You select a part and then change the gain, so e.g. if the kick is too clicky you would lower the volume of the high frequencies on the start, if boxy you cut the mid-bass after the attack, if there are too many subs you reduce the tail, etc. Like this:
I got better result than EQ... |
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Alien Bug
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Posted : Nov 6, 2012 21:19
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On 2012-11-06 21:11, Xetni wrote:
Ya, and also a thing I tried today and seems to work good is, forget all the EQ and compression and just edit the actual kick's wave. If you make it in a synth, bounce it to audio, and then edit the wave. You select a part and then change the gain, so e.g. if the kick is too clicky you would lower the volume of the high frequencies on the start, if boxy you cut the mid-bass after the attack, if there are too many subs you reduce the tail, etc. Like this:
I got better result than EQ...
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you make 'manual dynamic eq' that way 
in fact (in case of classic sine sweep kick) is that you make same job that eq does, but manual 
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Xetni
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Posted : Nov 6, 2012 21:50
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Yep, it's just changing the amplitude at different frequencies (aka what a EQ does  ). But somehow with this approach to me it's easier to make a good kick. |
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Oni Katsu
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Posted : Dec 31, 2012 01:04
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Hey guys! So i was wondering if you guys sometimes use Phasers in the processing part of kickdrums. No LFO Modulation ofcourse.
i have no idea why i never thought of that before.
But it saturates with a very gentle amount and can give a quite punchy drum.
Is there a rule for this?
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I said I like it dirty, not muddy. |
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psyraal
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Posted : Dec 31, 2012 02:13
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Speakafreaka
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Posted : Dec 31, 2012 13:24
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Xetni
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Posted : Jan 5, 2013 10:15
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Hey man
what happened to that psy kick tool you made a few years back? Can that still be found anywhere?
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PoM
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Posted : Jan 5, 2013 15:13
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On 2012-12-31 01:04, Oni Katsu wrote:
Hey guys! So i was wondering if you guys sometimes use Phasers in the processing part of kickdrums. No LFO Modulation ofcourse.
i have no idea why i never thought of that before.
But it saturates with a very gentle amount and can give a quite punchy drum.
Is there a rule for this?
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it was frequent in goa days to use fx on kicks ,only rule is if it sound good to you |
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Speakafreaka
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Posted : Jan 5, 2013 18:09
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Hey man
what happened to that psy kick tool you made a few years back? Can that still be found anywhere?
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Honestly, I don't use it, so it seems a bit futile to carry on with it.
If you own any of the following:
D16 LuSH-101,
U-He Ace,
NI Massive,
Waldorf Largo,
Lennar Digital Sylenth,
Ableton Operator,
Logic Ultrabeat.
You already have everything you need to make a great kick drum.
I can upload psykick, sure, but what is the point of doing so ... in all seriousness! I'm not trying to be unhelpful at all. I genuinely think the most helpful thing I can do rather than offer the tool is to tell people that I don't use it and point them towards things I do use at this point in time, although, I'm very happy to reconsider this point of view if something I hadn't considered is highlighted. I hope my logic and reasoning is clear.
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Nectarios
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Posted : Jan 5, 2013 19:48
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Speakafreaka
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Posted : Jan 5, 2013 20:12
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My second choice, Nectarios . My first for a very long time too, and I still love it. If someone is using Logic, this is really where one should start and stop with kick drum synthesis, IMO
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Xetni
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Posted : Jan 5, 2013 21:06
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On 2013-01-05 18:09, Speakafreaka wrote:
Honestly, I don't use it, so it seems a bit futile to carry on with it.
If you own any of the following:
D16 LuSH-101,
U-He Ace,
NI Massive,
Waldorf Largo,
Lennar Digital Sylenth,
Ableton Operator,
Logic Ultrabeat.
You already have everything you need to make a great kick drum.
I can upload psykick, sure, but what is the point of doing so ... in all seriousness! I'm not trying to be unhelpful at all. I genuinely think the most helpful thing I can do rather than offer the tool is to tell people that I don't use it and point them towards things I do use at this point in time, although, I'm very happy to reconsider this point of view if something I hadn't considered is highlighted. I hope my logic and reasoning is clear.
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I get you, it's just that I never got anything good by EQing those raw synth kicks, probably because both my headphones and room are very bad at bass.
I can get something decent by shaping volume envelope in Bazzism but still when played on speakers it's quite bad (even though it sounds good on headphones). |
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willsanquil
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Posted : Jan 6, 2013 06:47
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I would love to be able to make a great kick in LUSH-101 or any other synth for the matter, but everytime I do it doesn't NEARLY stand up to the kick I can get out of bazzism :\
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