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				Alias		          				 
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      				Posted : Dec 24, 2007 16:46
      				 
      
      			
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				Alias		          				 
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      				Posted : Dec 24, 2007 16:56
      				 
      
      			
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 On 2007-12-01 11:55, Work4Acid wrote:
 Im trying to shape a kick but i dont know exactly how to do it, i have a screen of the wave here:
 
 http://pablosn.googlepages.com/kicks.JPG
 
 the first one its the kick sound i want to make, the second its my kick, i know that i have to play with pitch envelope over a sine wave, but i cant find good results.
 How you do that? is it easyier on wavelab or soundforge? im currently doing it loading a sinewave at 50hz on kontakt and shape it with 2 pitch envelopes
 
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 its all about pitch envelope!
 i wiil post later an explanation with picture!
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      				Posted : Dec 25, 2007 02:39
      				 
      
      			
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						Alias, Thanks for the presets.I'm sure they will be useful. I can study the Operator settings to find out what sort of parameters I can adjust to learn how to make my own kicks from scratch. What parameters should I tweak in the presets in order to produce some nice sounding kicks? I'm completely new to this. 
 
 I enjoy the samples you've shared as well. I use them all the time.
 
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      				Posted : Jan 13, 2008 23:13
      				 
      
      			
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						HEllo!
 Im trying to find a software to that can tell me the key/note my kicks is on...
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						williamsk, I know in logic you can use the pitch correction plug-in to see what note its on				 | 
					 
					
						
						 
						
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						Has anyone ever used Stylus RMX for their kicks?				 | 
					 
					
						
						 
						
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      				Posted : Jan 15, 2008 10:03
      				 
      
      			
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 On 2007-12-24 16:46, Alias wrote:
 Insaneacyde: of course you can. let me know about this release! i would like to hear those tracks!
 
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 sure thing Alias   thanks again
 
 who made thoose Psykick Vst's? It rocks!!
 i have been using rythmsBD vsti by ODO to make kicks but it's not directly built for that psy sound so big thanks to the PsyKick vsti maker dude  
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 i think its SoundMagus (searchin long threads arg!) thanx dude!!				 | 
					 
					
						
						 
						
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						Hi, great posts - nice info  
 
  the link for Speakafreaka's - PsyKick2.dll is dead now
 
 Can someone please upload a new link..
 
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						Hi Speakafreaka -  hope version 2 will reappear at some point, it looks very nice  
 
 Just tried out version 1 in sx and it works great [thanks], I also tried your 3 fx plugins which I found very nice also.
 
 Big thanks  
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						ps Have you any plans for velocity control of volume with PsyKick ?				 | 
					 
					
						
						 
						
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						Hi there
 
 i was wondering about a kick frequency issue :
 
 it is right that you must cut the duration of a kick just when the first bass note begin, to solve bass-kick conflicts.
 Now, kicks which sound loud and "thumpy" with a great impact and great low frequencies are often very long.
 So, i tried to cut the end of this kind of kicks to avoid conflict with bass, but all the thumpy effect disappear   and the kick sounds bad. I also tried to time-stretch the kick but it sounds also shitty.
 So how do you get a faaaaaat kick without bass conflicts ?  )
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