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The Mother of all KICK DRUMS thread

Domi
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Jul 24, 2006 21:51
yes,

i tried stomper as well.. no good idea hehe

but most kicks are with soundforge or kick me from pulsar (Only available with pulsar soundcard)..

i donno dude it needs time, i heard really nice kicks made with soundforge, just tweak it.

peace on earth brothers and sisters

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Nomad Moon
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Posted : Jul 26, 2006 00:11
thanx bro,
i'll see if i can get that soundforge
take care


9 day and then
BoOOOOM
Nomad Moon
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Posted : Jul 26, 2006 00:40
Infinite Dimensions wrote:
Quote:

I am constantly monitoring my kicks frequency response with a graphical equalizer to make sure the frequencies are evenly distributed and stopping in the correct place etc.



I,ve made a kick with stomper (not the same on the other post)and it sounded kinda fat but when i analize the frequencies they go till 4000/4500 ,where should i cut the kicks ,if cut the highs it looses the high part of it and gets kinda mushed ,even so it's the best kick i'v put on any of my songs
and i would really liked it to work
Domi
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Jul 26, 2006 15:46
hi hehehe

in this point i would stop to analyz..

just use your ears and if u hear some to high noise cut it may be
-5 or -6 db with a lot of "q" u know...sharp cutting..

i can´t say more than this and use your beautiful ears - hehe peace

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ocelot
ocelot

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Posted : Aug 1, 2006 05:55
http://www.psymatix.com/musicprod.html

i've put a kick and bass tutorial so far...
will add more sooner or later...
its just my opinions and ideas of course.
bom
Dark Eco


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Posted : Aug 1, 2006 10:21
Hey Ocelot! Tanx 4 the tutorials!!!

I realy liked your set in Belgium the 21th... (one big trippy thing)
I was that guy you borrowd that cable from (the opening live-act)...

Keep up your good work!! hope we meet again someday!
Grz Dark eco!!
energytick
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Posted : Aug 1, 2006 14:25
Cheers, ocelot :]
i'm very pro to the artists who explain their professional "secrets", because they know it's not knowing the technique that will get u anywhere, it is ur creativity and what u do with it...
Thanx, Downloaded and using it
*BoM*
texmex


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Posted : Aug 2, 2006 01:02
ocelot, nice tut even it doesn't differ that much from the infected one. Using the wave on cubase audio track is pretty cool, because you can control the envelope for each hit. Making kick "drumfills" is easy because you can adjust the envelope hit by hit. I just hope that in cubase you could make "patterns" out of multiple wave hits like with midi data... it would make copying kick patterns much more easier (or is it possible?).

Nice tray icons, btw
Jesus Freak
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Posted : Aug 9, 2006 22:42
Quote:

On 2005-03-02 21:44, Pavel wrote:
All queries regarding the kick drums should go here.
I'll kick start with my collection of kick drums.
http://www.3rd-eye.biz/pavel/Kicks%20Arranged.rar


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ocelot
ocelot

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Posted : Aug 24, 2006 14:29
just make a new one- thats what your pro-ducer probably did anyway.

its not that hard. its a sine wave thats been pitch bent over time from high to low "dew" make a sine wave in your audio editor and make it the frequency you want the kick "note" to land on- then pitch bend the beginning- maybe over 6 octaves (thats 3 times of 24 steps a la sound forge pitch bend tool...)for psy or less for a more soft round thuddy sound- to get intense pressure and tightness but with a softer kick just use fade the beginning of the kick in a few samples in your sequencer...i put my kick as audio.with the occasional bit of eq but otherwise no processing and i will happily pit it against any kick in the world for tightness or intensity. its a simple as it gets... of course you can always muddy it up a bit for character...



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On 2005-03-31 15:29, FREGLE wrote:
u can only use an EQ at that stage... The producer who made that kick u stole already processed it to pieces, putting more compression/limiting on it will only destroy it. If ur kick becomes weak when limited it means ur limiting to hard... Use a mastering multiband compressor instead, with a long attack, so the kick-transient can get through unscathed. To keep it sounding clean while boosting u'll have to boost the right frequencies while leaving the odd harmonix unboosted. Also, boost the same harmonix on the bass so it sits well with the kick.

psydraulix
Alien Zed

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Posted : Sep 25, 2006 18:25
Yes, someone please provide a working link to those kick collections
Any other free sample website links would be much appreciated too
-dudi-
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Sep 26, 2006 15:47
very nice kick tutorial by ocelot !!!

cheers man ,,, learnt quite a bit there and the frequency chart was very cool too

but the bass tutorial is a lil shitty in my opinion ,,,, a lil more elaborate tutorial for the bass wud be much appreciated

bomski
Subdevil


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Posted : Sep 28, 2006 23:53
Here the link on "Kicks Arranged" - http://www.sendspace.com/file/qxaq5c
Djones
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Posted : Oct 11, 2006 18:43
I wonder why most kicks, actually all kicks when using without any FX lack this roomshaking lowend.

Sometimes I'm spending hours just to get the kick right, to get it real deep and pounding but retaining it's crisp edge.
After a while sometimes my kicks become overprocessed and end up, sounding like nothing.

What procedure do you follow to get the kicks sound full?
-dudi-
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Oct 12, 2006 06:17
yes plz ,....any advice on how to create those in your face kicks !! heavy weighted kiks !! would be much appreciated

if n e one knows how to create a kick on wavelabs ,, tht would be helpful too
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