Trance Forum | Stats | Register | Search | Parties | Advertise | Login

There are 0 trance users currently browsing this page
Trance Forum » » Forum  Trance - The Dark Side

1 2 3 Next Page →
First Page Last Page
Share on facebook Share on twitter Share on StumbleUpon
Author

The Dark Side

Kaz
IsraTrance Full Member

Started Topics :  90
Posts :  2268
Posted : Mar 18, 2004 17:43
... different than my usual long lectures about boring subjects, I want to ask a simple question.

How come there is no counterculture within the psytrance scene? Is everyone really as individualistic and similar as goths talking about how every person is an individual and that they do their own thing when they all end up listening to Marilyn Manson and reading Byron? How come there is no alternative to the "let's be smily colorfull happy people and bounce to the powerful groove" attitude?           http://www.myspace.com/Hooloovoo222
tom anteater
IsraTrance Full Member

Started Topics :  56
Posts :  1637
Posted : Mar 18, 2004 17:54
maybe there is asaf...           >>love will tear us apart...<<
The Green Channel
IsraTrance Junior Member

Started Topics :  41
Posts :  1025
Posted : Mar 18, 2004 17:56
I think there is, and I don’t like the people on the other side, if I understand your question correctly.
Surrender
IsraTrance Team

Started Topics :  506
Posts :  5388
Posted : Mar 18, 2004 18:09
kaz, you are the one who wrote this wonderful piece:
http://forum.isratrance.com/viewtopic.php/topic/6499/forum/1

dont u consider that a type of counter culture within?


          "On the other hand, you have different fingers."
http://myspace.com/gadimon
Phanatic
Phanatic

Started Topics :  58
Posts :  648
Posted : Mar 18, 2004 18:12
lol
Kaz
IsraTrance Full Member

Started Topics :  90
Posts :  2268
Posted : Mar 18, 2004 19:04
Surrender: the techtrance scene is all but dead in Israel. Occasional parties on Friday the 13th is just not enough, and those parties are usually made of the same people that go to Domo Rec. parties nowadays. This is not nearly enough to be a counterculture - the techtrance scene made signs of growing, but it didn't. Acts like Hujaboy have moved to full-on, The Delta to a more technoish and less trancey form... just like the dark minimal was all but abandonded after 2001.

There are only two 'serious' party organizing groups that do not follow the standard form nowadays, and those are Doof (with their Doof Rec. material) and Psychedelic Zion (which are for the reeeeeeeeally psychedelic stuff). This is no counterculture, because people don't bother looking for something different.           http://www.myspace.com/Hooloovoo222
Kitnam
Mantik

Started Topics :  110
Posts :  1151
Posted : Mar 18, 2004 22:13
? as far as i know techno/techy tunes are very very famous actually in israel.

anyway marilin manson is a very intelligent person (see: bowling for columbine - movie) and his speeches are not thoose silly "lets all die"-singing it seems like at first view. listen to what he is singing. and i also think the we have very big counterculture.. at some parties i was, at morning (8-10 a clock am) i have seen more zombies and vampires as in the best horrormovie. yeah... you realy believe that drugs are send from HEAVEN `? oh....one moment i hear someone laughing from somewhere...maybe the devil?

Goblim
IsraTrance Full Member

Started Topics :  104
Posts :  731
Posted : Mar 18, 2004 22:34
Maybe it's because devil, evil, dark is not very good in a psychedelic aspect...

Other than that I don't really see any point with evil/bad ... stuff.           Ut ameris, amabilis esto.
timsensient
Sensient

Started Topics :  101
Posts :  438
Posted : Mar 18, 2004 23:52
there is a difference between dark and evil. I think the evil stuff has no place in our scene, im glad its not there. Kaz...how are you making your judgement that there is no counter culture? People have different attitudes and outlooks regardless of how they look. For example it doesnt take black clothes and make up for people to enjoy the darker things in life...
Nomolos(Zenon Rec.)
IsraTrance Junior Member

Started Topics :  48
Posts :  2027
Posted : Mar 19, 2004 01:18
sorry but ill quote my self from a diff' thread...

Quote:

Timmy...very weird approach...this developed came with the heavy intrusion of Extazy to the scene...i know your not a FullOn freak which really makes me wonder....how did we get here? and will we ever go back? Night has allways been a very important part of the "build up" of the party/trip from the low dark sounds and heavy stomping or just beeing lost to the clear visuals and uplifting sounds in the morning....BOTTOM LINE-since the ideal party takes place out in nature(imo) and beeing part of the Earth's Awakning is totally psy' idea if u give it a sec' thought, i think with out the LONG DARK Night the morning losses a lot of its power.
cheers.


i second me...

          "....or is it???"

www.zenonrecords.com
www.myspace.com/thenomolos
Hg
IsraTrance Team

Started Topics :  73
Posts :  1076
Posted : Mar 19, 2004 02:38
in Brazil there is an anti-psychedelic-terrorism vertent which uses the necessary means to establish what they call psychedelia in the so called trance festival, this includes all sorts of dirty jobs and the diffusion of the popular 'GOOD' --- sadly, what the public likes most is terror itself, isnt it?           cna't find it
Kaz
IsraTrance Full Member

Started Topics :  90
Posts :  2268
Posted : Mar 19, 2004 04:05
Kitnam: I bought bowling for columbine on DVD, despite my rather provocative choice of words, there was no real barb there, hence the people that agreed with the more gothic approach saw none of that.

Tim: I assume I know the scene (at least in Israel) well enough to say that there is no real counterculture. I also know that goths keep talking about how each person in that scene has an individual point of view and that he is a free thinker with an open mind.... words are words, actions are nonexistant.

shrom: if the public wants, then it is the public that dictates. If no one would buy heroin, no one would sell it either.

To everyone: yes, I did start this thread in order to provocate.          http://www.myspace.com/Hooloovoo222
zooter
IsraTrance Junior Member

Started Topics :  44
Posts :  771
Posted : Mar 19, 2004 06:49
imho, i'm dark enuf and i don't wanna get scared anymore
Zombi
IsraTrance Senior Member

Started Topics :  375
Posts :  5032
Posted : Mar 19, 2004 15:44
so its domo rec falt ?
          Believe your soul !
Trance Forum » » Forum  Trance - The Dark Side

1 2 3 Next Page →
First Page Last Page
Share on facebook Share on twitter Share on StumbleUpon


Copyright © 1997-2024 IsraTrance