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survey: parties in israel (money issue)
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5Meo-Geo
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Posted : Sep 9, 2003 11:39
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well dude we went to different parties back then ........
that explain's the way u growed and the way ive growed
and yes if u hear PSYCHEDELIC trance it is for the brain and it is for drug
if u ppl look at it different way then u missing the point of this genre (go hear house or mtv music)
otherway u not enjoy psychedelia
u enjoy rythm,u enjoy buidup,u enjoy energy blows(nitzhonot),but no real psychedelia
yes psychedelic music lovers r most acid heads.
and true arabs if they were at the party they was in same vibe as rest of ppl but not like today
"(btw - alot of ppl got a mind damage of this shit. i prety hate those lsd plur chakra stupid thingy).. " u say.....
well we do our music and parties for those who survived this "stupid thingy" and keep going forward to digg our brains more deeply
i'm sure that 90% of all "trance"/club outdoor parties crowd would kill themselfs at 1st 15 mins of our music (spetialy arabs and arsim).
how u explain this??????
open mind u say???????
4 years of same music is not much of open mind
and ye sure "fuck this and fuck that"
that shit hurts big time (i asume this party isue not bother u as much as me)
i hate most of the party orginisers and most of dj's/artist's in israel for what they did to our scene
and if u dont c all this then u included
sorry if i hurt like 99% of the forum but thats what inside of me
loose u'r ego 1st then make parties
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5Meo-Geo
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Posted : Sep 9, 2003 11:42
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i'm not raver for a long time now 
and yes when i was i used to arrive arround 4-5 at the morning
then u c the place full of crap and u making U turn and go to beach or some other nice place
anyway i done here
Jesus didnt dance,but his beat goes on
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Zombi
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Posted : Sep 9, 2003 12:40
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nova
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Posted : Sep 9, 2003 13:45
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5Meo-Geo...
you are saying that parties aint good as they use to be cause of the drugs?
you say that there are catagories for "how to be a true raver"?
i think that the real problem is the attitude...
the main thing about trance parties is to let ppl have fun! in any way they want and not stick our nose in how they doing it...
im tired of saying real p.l.u.r cause its not happaning...
for some ppl its only money...
for some ppl its only drugs...
for some ppl its only the sound system...
for some ppl its only the big names in the line-up...
what happaned to trance? ist it what its all about?
i love parties! im not going nowadays as much as i use to but i still love it. and some of them are realy good!
but we all can feel others big ego in the air...
its ruine everything.
there are still good ppl around here who trying to do their best for trance & love... taking a resnabl money on the door and creating a worm and friendly atmosphere... i hope that more organizers will look at them... and the crowd will be more respactfull.
may i say p.l.u.r? is it still here?
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5Meo-Geo
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Posted : Sep 9, 2003 18:38
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zombi u still djing same music as 20 others djs at same borring parties,partying abroad dont make our "sceene" better
and nova i'm not trying to catalog "true raver"
ravers are ravers
but exept of ravers there is also a big crowd that not close to be ravers
type "raver" in google if u looking for persize categories
raver is not attitude
raver is one that goes to raves all the times and c raves as main place of joy
candy raver is one that taked drugs at raves
hippies is attitude
plur is not ravers stuff its hippies stuff
once ravers was hippies
today ravers r clubers and ppl with blowed ego so plur is just a 4 letters symbol that most ppl even dont know the meaning
hippies stays home.....
"not to stick nose"........
well thats why i stoped to rave and let ppl that enjoy that "sceene" to party for themselfs
"for some ppl its only money...
for some ppl its only drugs...
for some ppl its only the sound system...
for some ppl its only the big names in the line-up..."
what about ppl that dont care for all this and care about PARTY itself???????????
u miising something here i would say
what happend to trance u say????
wierd thing happend
COMERTIALIZING
artist's begon to sell themselfs
dj's begon to sell themselfs
orginizers begon to sell themselfs
"whos better" war is out there
dj's,artists(less but still competite themselfs),and worse thing-orginisers, all trying to be BEST!!!!
way to go.......
a truck with medals on the way!!!!!!!
and crowd is key at this war
and yes who dont want to be part of this EGO war decide to stop raving
PLUR in israel u say??????
hard to c this comunity to be loving and united with respect to all arround
but anyway lets hope
ive stoped to try and fix the world 
Jesus didnt dance,but his beat goes on
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Zombi
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Posted : Sep 9, 2003 18:44
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5Meo-Geo
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Posted : Sep 9, 2003 20:27
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i dont respect ppl that dont respect themselfs and what they doing
and i told already that i disrespect most of dj's and artist's (i'm not talking about persons behind name but about what they represent and what did they made to the sceene) they might be a good human's (i dont know them) but i know what music they spin and yes i dissrespect them only for that
thats my OWN opinion and to change my OWN opinion about it they should work hard
also i can understand u'r critics
maybe its becouse i've ment to 95-99 (8-6) years ago and not 3-4 as i wrote
buuuuuuu
99 was the begining of progreccive era and high season of nitzhonot (eyal barkan)
it was begining of what we have today
sorry for my mistake about timelines
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Zombi
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Posted : Sep 9, 2003 20:49
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Posted : Sep 9, 2003 21:05
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uuuf, zombie thank god some one answered this guy before me.
dear meo. just to make some clarifications- 3-4 years ago where regular parties like today, e's, not to hard lsd, ( the reall god ones are on liquid not tripps btw ) the same arab arsim nefilot once in a while. allot more than 5 party makers. and maybe your lsd fuxcked you up and you mean 10 years ago. or adlist 5 6 years ago when you could find hoffman 43. anyways if it makes you feel god to be in love with your vibe and stupid meaningles words go for it. mabruk alek..
and for all the rest i been making parties for time now, sound for the least 5000, dj's from israle adlist 800-2000 sh. bar is not that money, too many free entrance for respect and free drinks..
i didnt even bring security. we take only 50 sh cause we want to keep the reall vibe going ( not the dum ass one like meo, good that he stays home with his monitors..) and guess what, we are loosing our opants every time and keep on for our love to see many dear ppl happy with our nature music celebration. i hate this talks about money, i take less i loose, some take more they win. you want go, you dont want dont go. stop bitchin. ( and i did bitch before too, and learned that it costs allot of money, ppl steal from you,the cops close you down and arrest you, ppl are licking to you for free entrance, everybody thinks they are entitle for something. this is our country this is the prices, and the deco btw got better, the sound got better the djs got better. its hard work to make a party, specially if you want to give out soemthing good, give respect to the ones taking huge money
risks, give their time and energy, fight with the whole world just to give you 10 hours of a small heaven to forget.
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nova
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Posted : Sep 9, 2003 22:27
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Meo...
hehehe... you are not catalogin at all..... no doubt...
i hope you have some wonderfull life... take care...
to Jacky...
there are many things that you are right about them and you make me look differently about some...
im not throwing parties. and i see that we are all bitching from both sides...
its funny cause most of us have the same target.
i hope soon everybody will chill out a little bit...
and its not true what you are saying...
i've been ripped befor by some organizers (not because the cops or the crowd... pure organize reasons...) and i know that i wont go anymore to those ones parties...
but i also do know some great ones... and if you are doing like you are saying then you'll be remamberd as a blast....
have a good time mate....
dont let it break ya. 
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no_alone
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Posted : Sep 10, 2003 03:13
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totally 100% support on RaverGirl
If you don't like the price dont go,Anyway if a party costs 120 sh it must be a commurcialized party, Look exem learen about production from experiance and live with that.
The resone that thay have the abilety to take 100+ sh is that only to know about the party is "cool" soo you must go.
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FreeMan
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Posted : Sep 10, 2003 12:57
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u r so full of bullshit
u think ppl feel cool when they know about shaffel parties  well this is a thinking of a kid
nobady care of knowing parties i know like 10 parties in a week so that makes me cool?? no!!!!!
we all have to focus on the subject let make change lets lower the price as it had before as it should be so evrybody will come for the party happy without thinking of the money situation
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5Meo-Geo
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Posted : Sep 10, 2003 14:16
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( not the dum ass one like meo, good that he stays home with his monitors..)
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hehe u r funny guy i c
yaman we do parties every couple of time
but 1-2 times a year we making our "BIG" production and belive me sound is one of 1st things we think of
sound systems that we bring to our parties u wont hear nowere else
and yes its coast us fortune but we still not raise prises even if we bring 3 ppl from abroad to play
but when we "dont want to proove noone nothing" but just enjoy ourselfs in some forest we bring PA monitors (about 300W each) or some other small sound system that enough for 100 ppl easy
zombie about respect isue
i dont like ppl that sell themselfs, their music and their souls (or in other words comertial money whores) that will make u anything for money
and yes as far as i know MOST (i always say MOST and not ALL ) of dj's and artists in israel r comertialized
so stop taking this personaly unless u count uself as one of the names in the same "black" list
the isue is how to make sceene better.........
i dont know why few of small productions,that makes same parties with same crowd usualy, dont unite to one big powerfull production with big power of promotion????
coze each will earn less after the party????
i dont c any other reason
becouse of making 3 parties at same night with more or less same lineup and 150-200 ppl at each party wont make any good to noone
crowd dont like the party cose its "empty" of ppl
orginisers dont earn their money back
unite and less ur expenses and make big party with same lineup then ppl will pay ya 100 nis for sure
anyway u keep u'r vibe
we keep our vibe
if u want u all invited to share it with us for free
Jesus didnt dance,but his beat goes on
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Zombi
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Posted : Sep 10, 2003 14:55
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Posted : Sep 10, 2003 15:39
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On 2003-09-09 18:38, 5Meo-Geo wrote:
zombi u still djing same music as 20 others djs
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this is not true. i know he got music that no other trance dj knows, maybe it's borring for u, ok, but u can't say it's like 20 others. and at least he knows how to mix and practiced this at home, unlike about 80% of the so called (israeli) dj's. if someone can mix and build a set i respect him or she no matter if i like the music he plays or not. what i don't respect is people who actually do nothing (even don't buy they're music) exept come to a party, change cd's for 2 hours and charge money for this. i guess this is also organizer's fault, who pay them a lot of money for nothing.
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like meo, good that he stays home
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i've been to his party some time ago and it was with such a good music and vibe that i don't see in parties lately. so he writes some nasty things here but he can't be that bad.
so chill out u all and stop throwing mud on each other.
all the clubbing and electronic music thing is in big decline in uk and europe. give it a year and it will come to here too and all the clubbers and maschara will go home. all we will need is good acid and everything will be ok
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