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June Rashava

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Posted : Jan 27, 2005 19:10
What the fuck is going on with the wave of vocal all of a sudden?
For me i think it is nice with vocal in trance, BUT, when artist start to work with a "singer" as Dali, it's ver the edge. And don't misread what i am saying, i am not saying anything about her work and a musician, cos she cool with trance, but the girl can not sing!
For god sake be original, and don't get a girl to sing on a track that can't sing, just cos you are desperate to be like everybody else!
Be picky about who you chose for vocals.

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Posted : Jan 27, 2005 19:16
Well i dont think vocals should be in psytrance at all.. It always seem so misplaced and i have yet to hear track which actually makes it sound good and harmonic with the rest of the track.

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Posted : Jan 27, 2005 19:34
I have to agree... I've been hearing more and more tracks with vocals in them, and I'm not very happy with them. Vocals in my opinion tend to cheapen tracks (unless they're good ones, but lets be honest) and are used in electronic music (not just psy) too much as a filler, to make up what a track lacks... Together with the increasing number of cover-tracks these days, vocals disturb me the most. Psy is just best off without them.           To hell with reality! I want to die in music, not in reason or in prose. People don't deserve the restraint we show by not going into delirium in front of them. To hell with them! - Louis-Ferdinand Céline
Nomolos(Zenon Rec.)
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Posted : Jan 27, 2005 19:37
N-A-S-A and Nemco.....im with ya!
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EYB
Noized

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Posted : Jan 27, 2005 19:52
I like lot of tracks with vocals. But u are right some sound not that good, so another good lead had fit better in some tracks. Anyway it is a matter of taste


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Dainty Doll
June Rashava

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Posted : Jan 27, 2005 19:57
EYB - Yeah exactly... I make vocals for trance aswell.. But it is very limited and i don't go make crappy lyrics, with no system in it..
Everything now is just random. Random lyrics, random singer.
I do like vocals aswell.. But fuck it piss me off that people are so desperate too make what everyone else is making.

People should think again.. Think about Tikal, Fractal Glider, Rastaliens (the new work from them), Space Tribe and so on. They have their own sound and that is why they are well liked.
If you wanna be big, stop this horrible wave. If you wanna make vocal's, do something original. Don't sing about, i love you, you love me, lets have sex lalala.. Noone want's to hear that.
The true hits is original. New lyrics, new way of singing!
But for all you small artists, if you want to keep people laughing at you, keep on doing what you are doing!

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psy^soldier
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Posted : Jan 27, 2005 19:59
well i think dudev should stop singing
IndiAlien
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Posted : Jan 27, 2005 20:07
I agree vocals sound out of place in most psy.... but there are a few morning melodic master pieces that i like- which have vocals... I See Myself by Fly Agaric is deff in the topp of that list

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ps- question...... Protoculture - melody machine..... there's no vocal per say (as in no words) so what would you call the 'heeeeyyy' going on in the background? surely forms part of the melody.
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pr0fane
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Posted : Jan 27, 2005 20:08
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On 2005-01-27 19:59, psy^soldier wrote:
well i think dudev should stop singing



I completely agree with you on that one

I remember the same discussion concerning the first Haldolium album by the way, but I think (and hope) it's just a craze. Two particular albums where I found the vocals horrible where from X-Dream and Infected Mushroom.

Still, there are good vocal-tracks out there. The Sub6-guys did a great job incorporating vocals into their tracks (with "On The Ground" as an exception though), and the new Haldolium and Emou albums where pretty good too.          DJ pr0fane (Iboga Records) | Multiphase
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Dainty Doll
June Rashava

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Posted : Jan 27, 2005 20:14
Indialien - again.. read what i write.. i am NOT saying that all trance tracks with vocal is bad.. i make it myself, so i like it.. The fact is, to many amatures, that don't take time to find a real singer. I am not referring to it has to be a celine dion voice, but a voice that can give something to the music.           http://crackwhoremodels.dk/dainty_doll.html

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Pt.
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Posted : Jan 27, 2005 21:23
In psytrance... Singin' is 98% of the cases bad or cheezy or just plein stupid. What I do like thou is good Voice samples from movies, documentaries, made by the artist him/her self ect ect.

Infected used to have some of the best voice samples imo, many made by Duvdev him self. Now he only sings..


IndiAlien
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Posted : Jan 27, 2005 21:30
damn June....

i know what u said... and i'm not saying ur wrong... i'm just adding my thoughts... i won't next time

peace
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ps- did anyone read my question?
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Posted : Jan 27, 2005 21:35
The vocals that sub 6 used are OK. But, when u have Duvdev singing, and i also heard that Astrix will sing with Michele Adamson together, now thats a litlle bit too much.
OK, Skazi now started to use vocals a LOT, he remixed Out of Space track from Prodigy, but he used Fishy as a singer and the lyrics are from a track that has been here forever. But Psysex and Michele Adamson - Your place or Mine????? COME ON!!!! Now that's simply said, HORRIBLE
Dainty Doll
June Rashava

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Posted : Jan 27, 2005 21:54
Indialien - Oh sorry mate...


Psytones, well if the samples are taken from a movie or dokumentary, they did'nt make them themselves did they?
But yes that's alright sometimes. My fav' fx is the sample from Kill Bill with Lucy Lui... she fucking rocks!
But i mainly prefere tracks that is 100% made by the artists.
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Pt.
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Posted : Jan 27, 2005 22:00
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On 2005-01-27 21:54, June Rashava wrote:
Psytones, well if the samples are taken from a movie or dokumentary, they did'nt make them themselves did they?



ummmm..?!? what!? (or hæ!?.. as we say in Norway) I never said that... hehe.. Made by him/her was a suggestion like.. A movie... a documeentary... a voice made by the artist ... Now Juno, say your sorry,
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