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STD testing in the trance scene

Psycosmo
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Posted : Dec 9, 2007 05:39
Sometimes I wonder what percentage of the trance scene gets tested reasonably regularly. Its not a topic Ive heard mentioned many times in my 9 years of going to parties. Maybe that is just because people just do it and dont talk about it, but sometimes I worry.
Anyone else ever had this thought?
Fallen Angel
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Posted : Dec 9, 2007 06:14
I''m HIV+ have been for 12 yrs - is that a problem?

still party - am safe man

but yer - get tested - keep it safe

ASL?
Psycosmo
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Posted : Dec 9, 2007 07:00
Hey just to be clear, my point was not that people should find out who "has it" and all talk about them, or are any stigmatization crap like that.
It's just that this IS a dance community, and people do have sex with people and then at a later time have sex with other people. When drugs and alcohol are involved, as they often are, the potential for mistakes is increased. Also, even if IV drugs are not popular in the psy community, drugs in general are, and drugs bring people into contact with people who use other drugs, and that can include IV drugs. Thus, I think that there are special reasons why STDs should be an issue of concern in the psy community in particular. STDs other than HIV are on the rise, probably because people arent sufficiently scared of them anymore. This could be a real problem in the future.
Also, psytrancers travel alot, so one person who has something and doesn't know it could unwittingly introduce a disease into a local community.

Also STDs arent the only diseases of concern for the psytrance community. Hepatitis C is easily spread by sharing straws for snorting coke and K.

And finally, maybe I should have made the topic about disease prevention practices in general, because tests dont prevent the disease for people who get it.

I would be interested to see what percentage of psytrancers use a condom when they are with a partner whose test status they are uncertain of.

If there isnt a culture that strongly encourages testing as matter of course, that is dangerous. (I know not all psytrancers go for annual checkups, so that would mean that they have to specifically go to get tested).


ps what is ASL? American Sign Language?
The Journey Man Project
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Posted : Dec 9, 2007 07:39
I"ve only had th eone girl fo my entire life and she with me... we never slept with others before we met and have not slept with others since...


and the idea of shagging at a bush doof just makles me feel gross... all the sweat, dirty hands, bong breath, dust/dirt... it's just asking for something wrong to happen... I go for the music, not to fuck horny people on "e"
mk47
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Posted : Dec 9, 2007 08:59
wtf ? .. silly topic ..
Psycosmo
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Posted : Dec 9, 2007 09:02
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On 2007-12-09 08:59, mk47 wrote:
wtf ? .. silly topic ..



Really? I think it's rather a serious one.
Here's some food for thought: http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSN13576455


mk47
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By Will Dunham

WASHINGTON, Nov 13 (Reuters) - The rates of three leading sexually transmitted diseases -- chlamydia, gonorrhea and syphilis -- rose again in the United States last year, worried public health officials said on Tuesday.

It was the second year in a row of increases for all three of these sexually transmitted bacterial infections, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said.

The rate of chlamydia, the most common infectious disease reported to the CDC, increased 5.6 percent in 2006 from 2005.

More than 1.03 million chlamydia cases were reported in 2006 -- the highest number since the CDC began tracking it in 1984 and the highest number of annual U.S. cases ever for any sexually transmitted disease.

The CDC said the national rate of reported chlamydia cases in 2006 was 347.8 cases per 100,000 Americans. The rate has been rising since the 1980s but likely reflects less than half the actual occurrence, the CDC said.

The rate of gonorrhea rose 5.5 percent in 2006 -- its second straight yearly gain -- with 358,366 cases reported. In 2006, the gonorrhea rate was 120.9 cases per 100,000 people.

Rates for blacks were eight times higher than for whites for chlamydia and 18 times higher for gonorrhea.

The rate of syphilis, with gay and bisexual men accounting for 64 percent of cases, rose 13.8 percent in 2006 over 2005, with 9,756 cases. Syphilis rates have been rising over the past six years, gaining 57 percent since 2001, the CDC said.

The 2006 syphilis rate was 3.3 cases per 100,000 people.

Sexually transmitted diseases, or STDs, represent a significant public health threat, the CDC said, with about 19 million new infections occurring each year in a country of 300 million people -- almost half among people ages 15 to 24.

"This is a hidden epidemic," said Dr. Stuart Berman, who helps tracks STDs for the CDC.

"Most people are not aware of how many STDs are out there, the risks that they run and the need for getting regular testing for some of these and treatment -- and having their partners treated. We'd like to see these rates going down."

UNREPORTED DISEASES

The CDC said many STD cases go undiagnosed, and some common viral infections such as human papillomavirus -- which causes cervical cancer -- and genital herpes are not reported to the agency at all.

Dr. John Douglas, who heads CDC STD prevention efforts, said more risky sexual behavior by gay and bisexual men is helping fuel syphilis rates. He said expanded screening efforts may help explain the rise in chlamydia reports.

Having multiple sex partners and not using condoms can increase the risk of spreading sexually transmitted diseases, including syphilis and AIDS.

Douglas said STD prevention programs in local and state health departments have been stretched thin financially. And he said the lack of health insurance among many Americans might be contributing as well.

Chlamydia is easily cured with antibiotics, but often goes undiagnosed. When untreated, it can cause severe health consequences particularly for women such as pelvic inflammatory disease, ectopic pregnancy and infertility.

The CDC estimated there are about 2.8 million new cases of chlamydia among Americans each year, far higher than the reported number of cases. The rate for women is three times higher than for men.

STDs raise one's vulnerability to the AIDS virus and makes HIV-infected people more infectious. Left untreated, gonorrhea can cause a variety of health problems including infertility.

Syphilis, easily curable in its early stages, can cause serious complications if untreated, including brain, cardiovascular and organ damage, and even death.



sounds like u contracted syphilis or something at a party
psysnoopy


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Posted : Dec 9, 2007 09:37

In general it's good to get tested regularly, no matter where u go or what u do




Forest dreams
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Posted : Dec 9, 2007 09:43
this topic makes me realize that I have far less sex than some of you people here.           Nothing is said that has not been said before.
Basilisk
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Posted : Dec 9, 2007 11:35
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On 2007-12-09 09:21, mk47 wrote:
sounds like u contracted syphilis or something at a party



How old are you, 12?

I find that psytrance culture is rather low on harm-reduction awareness. This is a good way to broach the subject. Perhaps the usual forum funny guys could take five and let a real discussion proceed?

I am curious--how many people see harm-reduction booths at events? I am talking about public services that give away free condoms, pamphlets, flyers, and other goods related to safe sex and safer drug use... and also, I suppose, good advice and this sort of thing. Here in Canada I never see such a thing at psytrance events, but it is common to have paramedics on hand at what you might call "regular raves," as well as the kind of booth I described above.

There is this presumption in the psytrance scene that "we're all mature and know how to handle our stuff..." Yet I often see evidence to the contrary in the form of reckless behaviour. I am thinking of drug use, but I would imagine the same could apply to sexual practises as well--especially, as Psycosmo says, when the two are mixed. It isn't just a matter of what goes on at the party (opportunities are sometimes limited) but also what happens after.

It would be really beneficial to this culture as a whole if more people adopted better attitudes toward sexual health as well as the maturity to discuss it like adults. I speak in a general sense here--not based solely on what I read in this thread. This is more a comment on impressions I've gathered over the years from similar discussions in person and online.
uvego
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Posted : Dec 9, 2007 12:59




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this is general topic for all peaple not just for psy comunity just go check yourself for the simple reason that it can get worse and u can get realy realy sick and also u might spread it to other peaple , listening to trance or not...           www.sattelbattle.com
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Bender B. Rodriguez
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Posted : Dec 9, 2007 14:35
I donate blood once or twice a year. They still accept it, never got any complaints.

As far as protection goes, I`m always using a condom. I`ve learnt from other peoples experience that having unprotected can change your life forever (a friend has a kid that he did not want).

Anyways, I think that a booth with some promo material and free condoms should be present at parties, and especially at festivals. They should not have an aggressive campagin (handing out flyers for example) because they could freak out the triped out people. But they should be present as an reminder. These thing should not be ignored, as if they don`t exist.           SPQR
Psycosmo
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Posted : Dec 9, 2007 17:12
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On 2007-12-09 09:43, Forest dreams wrote:
this topic makes me realize that I have far less sex than some of you people here.




LOL it's not like I get laid a lot either, I just think its something the psy community could be well to be more aware of (Basilisk, great point about harm reduction and free condoms at festivals). I agree with Bender that the same kind of in your face harm reduction that is needed in some scenes is not needed here, but free condoms and references to free STD screening are not a bad idea.

and MK, you are a fucking idiot, now everyone can see that, and knows that you think you are immune to STDs congratulations. I hope people you wanna fuck find out what your views on sexual health and sanitary behavior are and reject you because of it.
vector_0
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Posted : Dec 9, 2007 18:47
i think this is a great topic. Now that you mention it, it is not a regularly frequented topic in the psy scene.

I've been seeing a new girl for the past couple weeks and when she asked me if i was ABSOLUTELY SURE that i didn't have any STDs, i realized that i couldn't answer her. It really started scaring me to think back on my wilder days; perhaps i had contracted something and just didn't know it? I knew i had to get tested, and it turns out that I'm clean, but that was a stressful 2 weeks waiting for my results!!

I decided a while ago that sex without a condom just isn't worth it without monogamy & the pill, and i'm going to stick with that. Also, i highly recommend getting tested not only for yourself, but for all the people you may end up sleeping with. Can you imagine what it would be like if you cared about someone and unknowingly gave them an STD? Talk about a way to skew a relationship

BE SAFE & GET TESTED!!!!!

(^^^the shouting is out of love )
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