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___KARAHANA
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Posted : Jan 17, 2002 22:56:19
Astral Projection: state of mind.  a great experience and a great name for a trance group.  has anyone ever experienced it?
___MadTrippz
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Posted : Jan 20, 2002 00:55:19
Experienced what exactly?
___KARAHANA
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Posted : Jan 20, 2002 02:31:40
astral projection...

in general it's when you, your mind, projects from your body
___bagakid
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Posted : Jan 20, 2002 02:39:58
KARAHANA, you rule girl ;)
___MadTrippz
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Posted : Jan 20, 2002 18:19:08
indeed I have felt those "vicious vibrations"!!
___psyklops
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Posted : Jan 20, 2002 20:34:53
i used to astral project heaps when i was a kid and have gone through periods of doing it as an adult....but the older you get the harder it is
ps it cant be done on drugs
___spin@
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Posted : Jan 20, 2002 21:30:01
anything can happen on drugs ")

8)
___MadTrippz
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Posted : Jan 20, 2002 22:41:04
Out of Body Experiences happen on drugs, astral projection takes a clear mind and utter relaxation and visualization.
___Jedi
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Posted : Jan 20, 2002 22:44:00
hmmmm, i had one of those experiences today ???

mad trippz, may i borrow your nic just for today ???

peace.
___MadTrippz
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Posted : Jan 21, 2002 01:25:17
borrow my nik?  may I ask why?
___Jedi
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Posted : Jan 21, 2002 11:37:08
Mad Trippz, let's just call it... one of those moments of truth... :)  have a nice day.

peace.
___TAZ
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Posted : Jan 21, 2002 13:44:18
gotta love those moments of truth.

BOM. 8)
___trade_om
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Posted : Jan 21, 2002 18:02:25
I have also ahd suxh experiences... but there are 2 types of projection - Astral Projection where the soul/mind/spirit/whatever you call it leaves the body completly and while in that state you feel no connection to the physical body, so if someone would say tickle you, you wouldnt feel it.
The second type is Mental Projection. This is a state where the soul/mind leaves the body, but keeps in contact with it. The mind is still connected to the body and thus all things done to the body in the physical plane will be felt on the mental one.
In order to achieve such states of mind much practice is needed (except in the cases of the lucky ones, that find this phenomena to happen to them by itself)... You need to know how to relax the body, and be free of physical feelings. You must learn to visualise and dream.
Drugs do not counteract this phenomena, but as we all know, while under the influence of drugs, say LSD for example, its very hard to clear the mind, and focus ;-)
Though, those who are familiar with the drugs effects, and can control them, will achieve a much more powerful experience of astral/mental projection while on drugs, rather then without them.
Trance is helpful while trying to project because it can induce certain states of mind where you can clear the mind, meditate, get intoned with the music etc...

For all of you who might want to try Astral Projection, here are simple to follow techniques...

tek 1 -
Lye in bed, with as little clothes as possible, head pointing north. The less clothes and garments you were, the easier it will be to achieve projection. do not cover yourself with a blanket. You can warm the room though so it will be cozy and nice to lye in. Close the lights.
Start breathing in a pattern. In, Out. With each inhalation count, and with each exhalation count.
like this - 1 (inahle), 2(exhale), 3(inhale), 4(exhale). Count up to 150 or so, or until you feel your breathing has achieved a pattern which is set and will not change.
Now, in your mind, visualize an object and focus on it. Say visualize your zipo lighter. Make sure its something you know well... Focus on it and look in your mind on it. Look on its shape, color and every other detail. Explore it like it is very intersting. Try to remain focused...
After a few minutes, you will see that other things start to pop in your mind. Get back to focus on that object. When you can no longer focus on the object, clear you mind completly and think of nothing. Just emptyness and blackness...
While doing so, you will eventually feel vibration sensations spread across the body. When you can distictly feel them, you are ready to lift yourself above your body.
Visualize yourself liftin above your body, floating in the air... make sure you really focus on that thing of lifting up. now try to turn around and look down to your body... then try to move around...
Now, for most of the ppl it will not succeed in the first time, nor in the second. Like Ive said before, it requires practice.
When you are ready to get back to your body just visualize yourself decending to the body. then open your eyes, and wake up.

IMPORTANT TIP!
For first timers i suggest locating around the room or the house 4 objects that you know good and recognize. Like keys, shoes, clothes, rings, etc... Locate them as to form a square around yourself, so if you drift to far in the astral plane, you will know where to return.

Tek 2 -
3 times a day, everyday, ask your self the question - "Am I dreaming?" to answer yourself try to fly. If you cant, you obviusly not dreaming. Ask this yourself when you wake up, when you eat lunch, and when you go to sleep.
Before you fall asleep, repeat this sentence or something like it - "In my dream, I will know Im dreaming, and I will control my dream"
Say this till you fall asleep. Easily well, you will remember you are dreaming, and you will control your dreams.
While dreaming, try to fly. Lift yourself. Remember its your dream and you can do whatever you want. (btw, its realy realy fun to fly around in a dream). If you want to try and astral project while dreaming, what you gotta do is move the scene of your dream to where you sleep (your room). Watch yourself sleeping, and then walk around in that place. try to exit the room. This also requires training as its not so easy to control a dream to the extent of changing the scene.
BTW, the reason you ask your self 3times a day if your are dreaming is that after 2 weeks is will become a habit, and then when you really do dream, you will also ask yourself the question, out of the habit, and will find that you are...

Astral projection can happen in many planes. There is the lowest astral plane which is the plane that we live in but, its the spirits plane. there are many many more planes, which require much training to get to. they are filled with entities, both good and bad, wise and dumb.

Enjoy your flight!
___raver_girl
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Posted : Jan 21, 2002 18:09:19
It happened to me once.
We were walking in Tel-Aviv with friends a year ago, rediscovering the city under the influence of ......
And there we were, standing and talking, and suddenly I found myself looking at myself... it was so weird, so magnificiant, and so scarry at the same time.
I reminded myself not to pannick, and enjoyed these few and rare moments.
___Cyber_Punk
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Posted : Jan 21, 2002 18:10:58
WOW !
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