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      				Posted : May 7, 2013 16:18
      				 
      
      			
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						I really hate djs or artists who use just computers on stage. I dont know if i am old fashioned but i miss people like Dimitri Nakov mixing with 3 CDJ's and more "commercial" techno and progressive djs mixing with turntables. Mixing is an art after all.
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      				Posted : May 7, 2013 21:10
      				 
      
      			
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						My only grip is not traktor dj',s but Live acts, those guys who just play a file from start to end and wave hands n the air.
 
 That stuff got old, boring and don't why it still popular and desired. 
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      				Posted : May 7, 2013 21:18
      				 
      
      			
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						To put it simply, because most people are there to party. 
 Only a handful are there, standing in the back, stroking their chins complaining about these things.  
 
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 My only grip is not traktor dj',s but Live acts, those guys who just play a file from start to end and wave hands n the air.
 
 That stuff got old, boring and don't why it still popular and desired. 
 
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      				Posted : May 7, 2013 23:54
      				 
      
      			
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 I really hate djs or artists who use just computers on stage. I dont know if i am old fashioned but i miss people like Dimitri Nakov mixing with 3 CDJ's and more "commercial" techno and progressive djs mixing with turntables. Mixing is an art after all.
 
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 Hate is a very strong word.
 
 You are very old-school.
 
 Good music is good music no matter the tool.
 
 And Boy have i heard many bad train-wreck djs with vinyl and cd's!
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      				Posted : May 8, 2013 01:49
      				 
      
      			
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 On 2013-05-07 16:18, DETOX wrote:
 I really hate djs or artists who use just computers on stage. I dont know if i am old fashioned but i miss people like Dimitri Nakov mixing with 3 CDJ's and more "commercial" techno and progressive djs mixing with turntables. Mixing is an art after all.
 
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 Hate is a very strong word.
 
 You are very old-school.
 
 Good music is good music no matter the tool.
 
 And Boy have i heard many bad train-wreck djs with vinyl and cd's!
 
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 have u heard people trainwrecking with tracktor??? that is seriously retarded shit. 
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      				Posted : May 8, 2013 19:20
      				 
      
      			
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						people just love to dance  
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      				Posted : May 9, 2013 22:16
      				 
      
      			
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 On 2013-05-07 16:18, DETOX wrote:
 I really hate djs or artists who use just computers on stage. I dont know if i am old fashioned but i miss people like Dimitri Nakov mixing with 3 CDJ's and more "commercial" techno and progressive djs mixing with turntables. Mixing is an art after all.
 
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 Hate is a very strong word.
 
 You are very old-school.
 
 Good music is good music no matter the tool.
 
 And Boy have i heard many bad train-wreck djs with vinyl and cd's!
 
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 have u heard people trainwrecking with tracktor??? that is seriously retarded shit. 
 
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 Sure I have  
 But this debate is about Traktor and some odd Agency with weird restrictions  
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      				Posted : May 10, 2013 17:22
      				 
      
      			
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						So I guess Ritchie Hawtin wouldn't be allowed to perform at their events 				 | 
					 
					
						
						 
						
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      				Posted : May 10, 2013 22:54
      				 
      
      			
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						Hawtin should be banned based on the music he plays nowdays LOL
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      				Posted : May 11, 2013 01:28
      				 
      
      			
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						I agree, But do you mention that comparing to the old plastikman stuff or what he was playing just 2 years ago				 | 
					 
					
						
						 
						
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						Sven Vath was also a big disappointment, heard him in 2008 and he sounded like every generic hands in the air cheezy techhouse DJ before him. At least Hawtin still has his Plastikman live going strong (and still quite bombastic). 
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						Yeah, I remember Plastikman tunes from the nineties, and that was pretty much good.				 | 
					 
					
						
						 
						
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      				Posted : May 11, 2013 13:38
      				 
      
      			
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						I heard Sven 3 years ago and he was great both as a dj and performer. Hawtin has been a constant dissapointment for me as a dj (in terms of music style ofcourse). I cant understand this ultra minimal "techno".
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						Not a seasoned attendee so can't say much more about Sven, first and only time was in 2008 and it was a big letdown expecting "The" Sven Vath and being subjected to an overcooked sound, though well mixed and performed... with full posse on stage. 
 
 Hawtin, have heard DJs sets are not so spectacular but am still a fan of what he does with Plastikman. Not as gritty type analogue and dirty as the older era but still quite exploratory. 
 
 Both of them did way more pathbreaking stuff in the past that's for sure but today would rather hear a DJ like Dominik Eulberg than these guys. 
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