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some facts on shaman films records / guillermo (vj egnogra)

Pavel
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Posted : Oct 23, 2007 22:42
I hope he has enough money now to maintain his funky hairdo.
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Shaman Films Records
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Posted : Oct 23, 2007 23:08
here is the statement page.
http://www.shamanfilms.net/statements.html
          Egnogra
Shaman Films Media
www.kalmekak.com
www.shamanfilms.net

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Shaman Films Records
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Posted : Oct 23, 2007 23:14
To all the people that post negative comments, where is the support buying original cds? They cant get enough of free music and on top they make remarks....

if people love as much as they criticize this we would all be millionaires..

neither artists support other artists buying cds

          Egnogra
Shaman Films Media
www.kalmekak.com
www.shamanfilms.net

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Andrey
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Posted : Oct 23, 2007 23:24
Shaman Films Records, Good luck!
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Umbra
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Posted : Oct 24, 2007 04:10
I hate artists that are always complaining about this and that... some artists always want monney money money, that is their priority and by having sush big ego they damage great labels reputation like shaman films, i know guillermo he is my friend, he works his ass off to have you the artist name out there in the parties, i am owner of label also, and its not easy to put comps and album togethers, we work our asses off everysingle day, with debts and debts.. but beside all the problems with those papers with numers that are destroying our society, the most important thing is to be respectful to each other, and agrree.. what now because you dont get a CD you been ripped off!!?? pleasee you can do better than that. Thank god i know the artists i work with wouldn't do this to me.. but hey the artists are only destroying their reputation with labels saying they never satisfied!! And I know many artists that are good in heart.

This goes to all artists... you are not rockstars, hollywood actors, or nothing, you have a gift that is to make people dance and let the world listen to ur muzik.

Artists these days just demand too much.

I say Shaman Films has been one of the best label over the years and im proud of the crew.

Guillermo don't let these guys put you down.
There are hundreds of good artists in the world who would give their tracks free just to get their names out there.

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Zman
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Posted : Oct 24, 2007 04:19
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On 2007-10-24 04:10, Umbra wrote:
This goes to all artists... you are not rockstars, hollywood actors, or nothing, you have a gift that is to make people dance and let the world listen to ur muzik.



to me atleast this gift artists have is a lot more impressive then what rockstars, hollywood actors etc. possess so kindly shutup... atleast show some respect to the artists instead of treating them like bollocks... you wouldnt be running your label without these artists who only possess this small gift
Zman
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Posted : Oct 24, 2007 04:25
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On 2007-10-24 04:10, Umbra wrote:
Guillermo don't let these guys put you down.
There are hundreds of good artists in the world who would give their tracks free just to get their names out there.



nobody is putting anyone down my friend... you make a mistake and you pay the price for it... simple and fair isnt it? or are we living in utopia? oh no we arent you cant expect to release names like Claw, Paranoize, Silent Horror etc. and expect free tracks. If you want free tracks find artists that give free tracks instead of promising $$$ and not delivering. Push me further and i will write about the artists who didnt post here who didnt get paid anywys fuck this i have nothing against shamanfilms or anyone associated with it... good luck to shamanfilms anyways, hope future ventures work out

peace
Umbra
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Posted : Oct 24, 2007 04:50
ok zmandan since u ask so polite i'll kindly shut up

boom n peace...

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Zman
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Posted : Oct 24, 2007 04:52
thank you amigo peace!
Elad
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Posted : Oct 24, 2007 06:42
some general ideas from me , since it seems more and more peaple love to hate me on that topic

point #1 i gave doesens of trakcs for labels to realese for free and discounts also , for giiwa rec. zaikadelic mistress of evil and more as well free album for download on http://www.postunder.net , as well p2p networks is blasted with anything i did before 2005

point #2 all i ever asked is what i was promised , even less if reading the contract carefully. if labels asked me for discount or free tracks they always got it but this takes talking and showing good whill and build trust

point #3 to say i want to be hollywood superstar or im being greedy is rediculus.. its even rude , u can ask my friends who actualy knows me , not asume stupid stuff .. all i realy want is my music out there.. the amount of money we talk about here is not even 1 shoe of this reach mofo's (btw those reach mofo's with 1000$ shoes also donate alot alot to good causes , dont hate them too , and beside some good fuckn movies hey)

point #4 its all come down to the love of music. guilermo open the label for that , i sit on my computer 8 hours a day for that , peaple buy and download music for that , going to parties for that , read this topic for that even.
so maybe we all can think of the best way to reach to peaple with the music instead make it look like its all big fight ?
its one scene not fight artist>label>crowd , its one comunity , that is now too confused. in few years it will be obvious how it will work
BUT with that , more on topic , its only make sense that label who sell cd's for 14$ will pay evryone that help produce the cd. (even if sales arent the best , thats the business and its risk , also B side of this coin is if u sell 5000 then u make the big bucks,or did i misunderstod what labels is?)

also im sorry guilermo this all out here realy but only you know how much i tried before to talk personly on email and msn.. and only that made the real move , so i guess u cant blame me either
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Pavel
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Posted : Oct 24, 2007 07:18
+1 to Elad. Can't stand the heat? Stay away from kitchen. Can't sell CDs? Go and sell fish in the market.           Everyone in the world is doing something without me
SHICHT
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Posted : Oct 24, 2007 15:11
hammm....
well , this industry is no big as u know ... atlist the dark one .

and well , i consider myself a BIG BIG listener ..
i hear alot of this music and really livin it ...

i go to 1 festival max in the summer and only if it got a good dark line up.

I bought this year 7 Original cd's. and i think this is ok . well what can i say , lots of shit is releasin , so i think real hard before i order a cd on the internet.
i admit .. i also dl , like everyone.
i wont buy a cd for 1 trk i like .. and thats the case on alot of the new Va's .
i mean when i see jelly album i order right away , derango and artist i like i MORE the welcome to invest money on.
for excample yesterday i ordererd to cd's ( my 9 this year)
one is : Beauty and the Beast man this one i just saw the names on it and i order ! amazing artist and this cd got a CONCEPT , soemthing that lots of cd's dont got , or invent some bullshit one that dont even match the music inside ...
and second one is deja vu fabriq album for zolood ...
True master of ...
so u understand ....
btw , 4 of the cd's i bought this year are last years releases , wich are mostly just better.

well , what im sayin is , try not to bomb us with those TONS of new artist's ... and 1231840 new cd's with cool names...

make a decent va , with good recpected artist and im sure i myself will be interested.

so this is my point i hope u understand ... cuz i dont sometimes

ok so bom !! and
KEEP BUYIN ORIGINAL'S !!!!
          
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Posted : Oct 24, 2007 16:20
Quote:

On 2007-10-24 15:11, SHICHT wrote:
i admit .. i also dl , like everyone.
i wont buy a cd for 1 trk i like .. and thats the case on alot of the new Va's .


If you like to buy your music, why don't you go to download shops where you can buy the individual tracks you like, rather than dl them for free?
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Posted : Oct 24, 2007 18:20
Quote:

On 2007-10-24 06:42, Elad wrote:
some general ideas from me , since it seems more and more peaple love to hate me on that topic

point #1 i gave doesens of trakcs for labels to realese for free and discounts also , for giiwa rec. zaikadelic mistress of evil and more as well free album for download on http://www.postunder.net , as well p2p networks is blasted with anything i did before 2005

point #2 all i ever asked is what i was promised , even less if reading the contract carefully. if labels asked me for discount or free tracks they always got it but this takes talking and showing good whill and build trust

point #3 to say i want to be hollywood superstar or im being greedy is rediculus.. its even rude , u can ask my friends who actualy knows me , not asume stupid stuff .. all i realy want is my music out there.. the amount of money we talk about here is not even 1 shoe of this reach mofo's (btw those reach mofo's with 1000$ shoes also donate alot alot to good causes , dont hate them too , and beside some good fuckn movies hey)

point #4 its all come down to the love of music. guilermo open the label for that , i sit on my computer 8 hours a day for that , peaple buy and download music for that , going to parties for that , read this topic for that even.
so maybe we all can think of the best way to reach to peaple with the music instead make it look like its all big fight ?
its one scene not fight artist>label>crowd , its one comunity , that is now too confused. in few years it will be obvious how it will work
BUT with that , more on topic , its only make sense that label who sell cd's for 14$ will pay evryone that help produce the cd. (even if sales arent the best , thats the business and its risk , also B side of this coin is if u sell 5000 then u make the big bucks,or did i misunderstod what labels is?)

also im sorry guilermo this all out here realy but only you know how much i tried before to talk personly on email and msn.. and only that made the real move , so i guess u cant blame me either




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ENERGYLOOP
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Posted : Oct 19, 2007 18:21
you dont even know me , so dont love me and dont call me "a little girl".
as i priviusly stated before... "im in this crap NOT for the money... 300Euro's is no money"
if i wanted to make money out of music i woold make pop or rock music.
this money is just confinsation for useing/selling our track's.
and all i ever wanted is to get waht has bin promist by a contract.
making "noise" and "bad name" for a label seems to work this day's.
it is verry sad and shamefall the this ishus need to be resolvd over here.
make this "psy scean" look ill.
bom.
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ola-la it make me big fun you know?energy star?

(if i wanted to make money out of music i woold make pop or rock music. )

are you sure about that?:) i think is not so easy to create pop or rock stuf for you!well you can't jump from style to style so fast as you think.......anyw**...maiby you'll try to make something else?:) is it soundza better?
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