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PsYoNiC
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Posted : Jun 17, 2003 14:42
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Hey Hello has someone heard back from Solartribe fest?? I picked up somewhere that 3/4 of the live acts cancelled...the mainstage was closed after 2 days cause of problems...no showers...
Anyone?
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Candy
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Posted : Jun 17, 2003 14:55
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I understand there were no ppl.
Ouch… Too bad. The line-up seemed so beautiful
Majority is never right!
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Dovla
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Posted : Jun 17, 2003 18:03
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Before I start this review I would like to state that this is the first party review that I'm writing in english before writing it in Croatian (you will excuse my grammar mistakes), this is because I feel that this message needs to reach as much people as possible.
about 3 months ago I first got the info about this festival, naturaly it came as a big surprise coz no one ever made such a big festival in this area, it also seemed wierd that the organiser didn't contact us at all, and when I say us I mean the people who are working on this scene and making parties. The scene in croatia is really small, about 150 people gather about two times a month on a small trance party in Zagreb, but we still know some stuff about where to make a party and where not to. This is one thing I want to really make perfectly clear. The organisers were not people from croatia! They were Italian and they only took some local people to work at the festival.
Their first idea was to make a festival on the south of croatia on the island brac. Which wasn't such a bad idea but they changed the location to the krka national park which was more to the north of croatia. The first logical question you have to ask yourself here is how can someone just throw a festival in a national park while we who work on the scene can't throw a small open air party in the zagreb mountains because of the police. So we got in contact with the main organiser and she came to Zagreb to meet us. By this time the lineup was almost closed. The organiser seemed like a nice person, she showed us the festival program on her computer and we talked a bit about our scene. One thing that bothered us after this conversation was that the location pictures on her presentation were pictures from the national park while she said that the location itself is near to it and not in the park. She also told us that she managed to make this festival there because she is working together with the local people from skradin(the town near the festival). The day after that I got a call from her to go and meet again with her and this man from skradin who is helping with the organisation. We met for a drink and after this drink my every instict told me that the festival will be a disaster. This guy was clearly an idiot. He kept telling me how he will make this scene a giant one and how he know everything about such festivals. Now consider how would you react is someone who lives in a small place without any content till yesterday didn't know anything about this scene and it's music is telling you today how he will change it and how he knows what needs to be done to make a good festival. But for what it was worth I was glad that they accepted us as artists to play there and to let us help with the promotion. Anyway after I got the flyer and saw the website it was an even bigger shock. The flyer was terrible, there were tons of grammar mistakes and the design was really poor, the same thing could be said about the web page. But anyway I was still glad that something was about to happen here.
Then a month before the festival I got a mail from some site that was also promoting the festival and they sent a link for the pictures of the festival location. The location was a barren plain with no shades, no trees, it looked like a desert. I sent a mail to the organiser to send me pictures of the location to see if this really was true, but she sent me pictures of the national park again.
From all of this it was very easy to assume that the organisation was really bad, that they didn't plan everything like they should have, but again, we were just overwhelmed that someone was going to make a festival here and that we were going to play there and meet some of this scene's influential people.
So the date came and we packed our stuff and travelled for about 5 hours to the festival. I travelled with 3 other people and 2 dogs in the car so it wasn't really a comfortable experience. When we got near skradin we had a lot of trouble finding the location and we're from Croatia so we understood each road sign. When we finally got there it was already dark and it really looked fantastic. Whe met up with our friends from shuma who came there a day earlier and told us that it's really hot during the day. Anywayz the main stage had this really huge decoration made up of really thin sheets, similar to those that were on the samothraki chill out floor, only much much bigger, there was also a small tower in front of the main stage that was also similar to the one from samothraki. And all the way around it were little towers that were connected to it with this really cool flourescent fabric. We later found out that they were supposed to make this really huge sun shade over the entire place but the guy who was supposed to make it fucked them up. The chill out floor was very simple so I won't describe it in detail, it just had some nice fluo decos. There were about 10-15 shops all together(instead of the annouced 30) and most of the stuff they had was food, which was good coz skradin was about 10 kilometers away and you couldn't get there without a car. After I finished touring the entire place I put my tent up I learned that 3 live acts were canceled, etnica, deep dive corporation and dogma 3000. Also after touring around a bit I saw that there were only about 300-500 people around and the expected amount 2 months ago was 5000. Because of this 6-7 live acts and around 20 djs were canceled!! The timetable was completly screwed, the sprinkling was canceled, the video screen wasn't big at all, no internet point, no shade for camping and the bus from skradin didn't drive in regular trips.
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Dovla
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The first person to play on the main floor was shiva, a dj from croatia, I didn't like his style much but after not being on an open air party since samothraki...this was like a revelation. I really missed stomping on the grass under the light of the moon. The crowd was also great. Even though the entire festival had really few people, those who came had a really great time. There were lots of people from israel, a bit from japan, england and hungary. After a bit of stomping I came to my tent and I met the guys from species and a friend of theirs who I also met @ samothraki. They played their live later on in the evening but I was too tired from our trip and had to rest. I learned that I was playing on the chill out @ 6 in the morning and had to get some rest. It also sucked that S>Range was doing a live in that time on the main floor and I was going to miss it. But since this was the first time I got a chance to play on such a festival I decided to give it the best I have and I played from 6 till 9...for nobody, there were about 50 people on the main floor listening to S>Range and maybe a couple of people just passed through the chill out floor. But it didn't matter to me, I came there to play and I did if for no one else then for myself. A friend played on the chill after me and then It started to get really hot so we went to the beach for a swim, the closest beach was about 40 kilometars away(not the river krka but the real sea) and stayed there for the entire day. We decided that it was best to this every day, the heat at the festival was simply too much to stand.
After a day of chillin on the beach we came back just to hear dirty frank from chaishop play. This was for me maybe one of the best moments of the festival. There were around 10 people on the floor, the sun was setting and Frank was fantastic! He played mostly progressive but really deep and mellow. It was perfect for the sunset, and he didn't care that there were only 10 people listening to his set, he kept a smile on his face and played a fantastic set. Big up to the guy, I later learned that he had two big cd cases which were all filled only with original cds. After him Genetic Spin came up to play a live act. For me this was the best live on the festival. Great style and ideas, really interesting progressive sounds with lots of tribal and melodic parts, it was also perfect timing coz it wasn't hot anymore. The chill out floor was closed almost all the time. No one played there coz there were no people. After a while we met the guys from genetic spin and talked a lot, in the evening cymoon from psytrance.cz played a fantastic set, his set was a full on one but without the hit stuff like gms and atomic pulse, it was really psychedelic music and he kept it this way from the beginning till the end. A fantastic story and fantastic mixing. Big up mate! But after a while I was too tired and went to bed.
The next day I woke up just to hear my friends, shuma, perform their live, it was a great live as usual, it's too bad they can't get better equipment for their live, they brought their desktop computer coz they don't have a laptop just to make it more of a live act. And I think they really did an awesome job, since I have some of their tracks I know how much they changed them for the live act. After they finished there were no foreign djs available to play so a friend of ours played back to back with aki from species. This was also a great moment in the festival. Even though it was hot as hell there were aroud 6-7 of us up on the stage just having fun and listening to our local djs play. After a while Aki continued to play by himself and he was the last person to play on the main floor sound system. In the meantime the fire truck came and sprayed us with water, it was nice and of course, reminded me of samothraki. Michael from Genetic Spin put on one of their unreleased tracks to check its quality and that was the last track there. After that we took Michael and Simon with us to see the beaches, that's why most of the people came here after all, if you talked to anyone most people would tell you something like...why are we here in the middle of the desert when there are beautifull beaches 40 kilometers away? Anyway after we got back from our swim the main floor had moved to the chill out floor. It now looked like an everyday party, but at least it seemed more apropriate coz it was filled up. I think that night Pena from Flow records came to play and he was also fantastic, He started with progressive but just kept going up, to full on and then after a while to really dark and powerfull tech trance, but I got really tired real fast from the swimming and went to sleep.
The next day I woke up to find out that I overslept phony orphants live and antix live which really pissed me off coz I really couldn't know when they were supposed to play. I wanted to go and take a shower but the showers weren't working anymore, we decided to go and visit the waterfalls today and again took Michael and Simon from Genetic Spin with us. When we came back I think avi nini from domo records was playing, he had a great full on set as well. This is as much as I can remember from the music. I also remember hearing Faktor D but someone before them played full on so they didn't blend in as nicely. The music ended on monday afternoon with Marcus from Interzone playing a great progressive set and us taking what was left of the water and preparing to leave. We dropped of Marcus and Simon in a hotel in Skradin and went for another short swim and went home.
So in the end I'd like to say that it's very difficult to have a general opinion about this festival, for us who had free drinks all the time and didn't have to pay an entry ticket it didn't matter much if we'd hear everything and see everything that was announced. But again, there were some people who wanted to see GMS live for instance and travelled a great deal. These people were robbed. But then again the majority of people still looked like they don't care who's playing as long as it's good music. This is why most of the people really had a great time. My mood changed a lot, sometimes I heard that a live act would be canceled and I thought, fuck it all, I want to go home ASAP, but then it just took one great track from any DJ and I would feel great again. But in the end I can say that we had a great time. But I have one final thing to say to all the people that were dissapointed...
The major flaws of this organisation were that they took local people from Skradin to work at the festival. This perhaps sounds wierd but you have to understand that such small places on the adriatic cost are filled with people who don't have anything to do the entire year, these people live off turism, they earn enough money from the tourist season to live for the entire year. So they know how to rob people and do nothing. After you don't do anything for a year you get lazy. That's what happens with them, so they simply don't do what you ask and pay them to do. This is why there was no big shade on the main floor, this is why the showers weren't working the entire time and stuff like that. There were many more big mistakes made but overall the biggest problem maybe the fact that the main organiser doesn't speak very good english, it's common for Italian folk to think their language is the only one on the planet. I also want to mention that the prices of water and some drinks were raised almost 10 times!!! In a normal store you would pay 3 kunas for a 0.5dl of water but here you paid 10. Beer and other drinks were even more expensive and trust me when I say that the prices in stores are not this high. I don't know how much this has helped you to understand that our organisers don't have anything to do with this and that we are capable of doing a festival without all these problems. So I will state once again that Croatian people were not the organisers of this festival. We are however making another festival in august and we will try to make it at least 10 times better. So I hope that I will see some of you there. Here's a topic about it http://forum.isratrance.com/viewtopic.php?topic=17258&forum=7&0
Bom!
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traveller
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Posted : Jun 17, 2003 23:55
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Well..
first of all your review is really nice.. gives a good pic of what the festival was like.. just enough details.. but too hot to dance? dude that's impossible.. unless the party is held on sun's surface 
that doesn't sound like too big disaster though.. but yeah maybe some gms freak who travelled from japan for this party might have been a little dissapointed..
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TiMMY
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Posted : Jun 18, 2003 13:42
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Nice review Dovla.
I'm sorry to hear about what happened and I'm sure that some day you'll have another festival in Croatia and more people will come and party  |
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Candy
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Posted : Jun 18, 2003 13:49
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The problem that organizers don't understand is that it's almost impossible to make a festival in a country that has a small trance scene. You cannot only rely on the international scene.
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Dovla
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Posted : Jun 18, 2003 14:30
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well you are partly correct...you see, we have an electronic music scene, the techno and house movements are really big, every month there is some big techno name here either from detroit or london or germany...but the trance scene is small...but you see, if the date of the festival wasn't on the time of the student exams (everybody I know had an exam in this period) and if the tickets prices were promoted as they should have been I'm sure that more local people would arrive because it was an open air fest and people like those, so they would come even if they didn't listen to trance, it was just a matter of bad promotion and ticket presales...this reminds me of one thing that I didn't mention earlier....the starting price for the festival was 60 euro...then about 2 weeks before the festival they decided to make a special weekend only ticket price for people from Croatia for only 30 euro...this ticket was only advertised on my page and the only way to get it was by sending a mail to us. I don't have to say that 2 weeks isn't a long enough period to do this (most party people here don't have internet connections)...to top this off...one day before the festival they decided to charge 25 euros to croatian people at the entrance for all of the days...making people who bought the weekend ticket for 35 look like idiots...if this price of 25 euros at the entrance was introduced 2 months ago I'm sure that there would be at least 1000 people more there....but anyway, I really had a great time there, the people were great, the music was great and since I had free drinks and didn't pay entry, this was a great party for me...but I feel sorry for those who didn't...they spend waaay to much money on this fest...
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Posted : Jun 18, 2003 15:31
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nice review dovla.
I just want to say that the group of us from CZ enjoyed the festival pretty much even not many people came. The organization right at the festival was quite good because I expected much bigger problems. So that was a small surprise for me...
for those who wants to see some pics from the festival check http://www.psytrance.cz/clanek.php3?ret=in&pos=1&id=419 |
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Dushan
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Posted : Jun 19, 2003 02:19
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I know that psy trance scene in Croatia is small, but the goal of this festival, i think, was to make that scene bether ! |
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hip
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Posted : Jun 19, 2003 02:51
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Well, Dovla said it all, but I'm just gonna give a couple of words to describe the way I saw it.
When we arrived, first we saw beutiful decorations, it looked like little boom or voov. Respect for that.
When the music started, 90% of it was really great, all the djs did very well, but I must point out Marcus from interzone and Pena.
All of the liveacts (Antix, Phony Orphants, Genetic Spin, S-Range, Faktor-d, Kryptamine, Species, ...) were absolutley great.
There wasn't much people, but the ones that were there danced with big smiles on their faces from the first to the last day. It looked like a big familiy, so when we had nature, beutiful music and beutiful and happy people, the fact that showers didn't work for couple of hours or that it was hot don't really matter.
It was also very nice that everybody got to know each other after one day, and that you could talk to all the djs and artists like normal people that they are. Nobody acted as a star and I liked that and I respect that.
Hey Cymoon, great set there at the festival!
Massive respect!
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Cymoon
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Posted : Jun 19, 2003 12:16
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thx hip....and I have to agree with you about the family feeling at the festival....thats what I liked there too.... |
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Posted : Jun 19, 2003 17:22
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hi
dovla & emir sad everything so i just wanna this, we had great time on festival, cos the people were GREAT, music was realy good, deco of the fest was great....we meet some wonderfull people from israel, germany, hungary, italy, serbia, slovenia.....big hi to michael & simon from genetic spin, aki, urosh, leni, viola from species, BIG BIG tnkx to anthony from S>range for giving us a cable for pc (cos sound technician cut 3 of our cables because he sad that they aren`t working - but they were working and were new till he took them...), shiva & his crew, tommy wonder & his friends from slovenia, 3 guys & girl from israel that were chilling on the beach with un in Skradin, 2 funny guys from france, triple T, massimo santucci....and specialy to the people from japan - they were like from the first second till the last milisec. of music the dancefloor - it was great sight to see them smile and dance all the time - when you come after this in your studio you know you are doing a right thing !!!
music was good all the time, all acts that show up, were really good, djs were good, in musical way this festival was big sucess...
but the local people were 90% jerks...we had trouble with them at the door - I was driving al the time, like 5 or more times every day from festival to skradin or to sea and every time the same asshole was fucking our brains out on the gate that we can`t enter and stuff like that but he know relly good who we are and that we have tent in artis area...and after he fucked us he was loughting with his freiend how he is "big" guy and he has a power !! and guy with water truck took the money for bringing water but came 2 days to late...and guy who was seling drink try to sell me water for 30 kn !??!?! cos he thought we are foriners ( I was toking to a simon form genetic spin while buying water) so next time somebody trys to make event like this should call us or somebody who if making party for some time in cro and he wouldn`t have trouble like this...the local people knew that organizers were from italy and knew they had money so it was like a gigant ripoff of them....
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Posted : Jun 19, 2003 17:22
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and one more thing guys from hu & cz rockedthe place with full on...i don`t like it to much....but after hereing cymoon & danee vs. nuon i realy started to like it bigtime.... |
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Posted : Jun 19, 2003 18:05
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The problem that organizers don't understand is that it's almost impossible to make a festival in a country that has a small trance scene. You cannot only rely on the international scene.
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we have BIG techno/house/tech-house scene - every weekend you have 4-5 BIG names like sven, pascal feos, bayer, mills, takkyu ishino, carola, derric may, get fucked...sometimes you can`t choose `cos there are like ian pooly is playning in one club and pure science is playning in other and trance scene was 2 years ago rocking 1500++ minimal people at big clubs whan only local dj are playning and when guest dj came it was like 3000++(but no new names were booked so people get totaly bord of listening astral projection, gus till, suzuki, yaniv all the time, for 5 years....now you know who will come after who, its like this - first you have yaniv, and then gus, and astral, and lori hi.fi.princes, and suzuku, ands astral, and yaniv and gus and lori...so its fucked up..all the same names for 5-6 times)...and totaly tooooooo much retro partys with goa, when people come to our small underground club attack on Tribalizer partys they get totaly confused with music like son kite, genetic spin, astrix & stuff cos befor entering here they think trance is goa and nothing else ... if you do a good promotion, find nice location, do a radio advert. and flayer on time you can make a good festival... |
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