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psyraal
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Posted : Oct 7, 2012 13:50
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when i first started to 'experiment' with electronic music (electronic club, not psytrance), and even when i started to finish my first tracks, i could never stand them, i mean, i thought it was cool and everything to be a music 'maker' but i could never really listen to them, but once i got ahold of the whole synthesizer world, a new era came into my life and now there's not a single night where i don't listen to my own electronic tracks because i'm so proud of them and i actually dig wat i did, feels amazing, and it also feels awesome when djs tell you that that tune would hit the dancefloor hard.
point is: making stuff from scratch, even if it's just a kick drum and then hearing it let's say for example at a friend's club feels great, because you made it, you can call it your own, it's not the same when you glue a bunch of samples, presets and percussion samples as well into one project, export it and call it your own.
 
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Beat Agency
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Posted : Oct 7, 2012 14:27
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It's all about being creative - not about where you get your sounds from!
I have heard many "we do it all ourselves and we are soooo cool" and thought the music was uninspired and pale. Whereas I have heard amazing songs with recognizable samples and sounds.
It's all about your talent and being creative - nothing else!
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dick hardman
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Posted : Oct 9, 2012 00:34
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Well, the proof in this pudding would be for someone to post a decent track made with these packaged sounds. Which begs the question, would a talented and creative person even choose use them seriously? ('cept maybe as an interesting project)
Anyway, most psytrance I'm hearing these days sounds just like these generic samples so who cares.
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daio
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Posted : Oct 9, 2012 14:36
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can't believe what i'm reading here about samples...stealing other's musics etc...wtf?? sampling is one of the basics of electronic production from it's roots.and that's because a producer doesn't have to be a musician.he can take harmonies and stick them to their beats.to tune them in their tunes!dudes amon tobin has made albums from sampling nature...now as for synth samples some are better in design and some in arrange... |
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Nectarios
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Posted : Oct 9, 2012 16:32
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demoniac
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Posted : Oct 9, 2012 17:07
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dick hardman
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Posted : Oct 9, 2012 20:08
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On 2012-10-09 14:36, daio wrote:
can't believe what i'm reading here about samples...stealing other's musics etc...wtf?? sampling is one of the basics of electronic production from it's roots.and that's because a producer doesn't have to be a musician.he can take harmonies and stick them to their beats.to tune them in their tunes!dudes amon tobin has made albums from sampling nature...now as for synth samples some are better in design and some in arrange...
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Try reading the original post and listening to the 'samples' 
Would Amon Tobin use these sounds to make the kind of brilliant music we know him for? Listen:
http://www.junodownload.com/products/global-trance-new-psy-styles-sample-pack-wav/1621486-2/
It's laughable!
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daark
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Posted : Oct 9, 2012 20:09
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[imho]
Its ok if you pay the artist though 
i heard some really good tunes(i won't mention names) and then i hear this awesome violins or indian woman voice singing and later found out its stolen and original is some awesome stuff and then i say hey thats not your talent you stole this man make me feel like i was fooled you only add some beat under the track to feat the genre and thats a shame  cause those ppl have talent . it is not original music. it is something else.
Sampling nature is not sampling someones music. Findin some old forgotten vinyl and use it artisticaly is ok. Only the prodigy can steal music. because they process it like insane not just fit to tempo/genere stuff.
2 different stuff
sampling
and
sampling
not the same
even then the pro's atleast make the recording of the guitar riff again so they can sleep well at night.
people think its ok because you can get success and be on mtv and get famous but its not ok .
i see many talents who don't need to steal like this. 2 samples or something like that is ok
to have more is like way too much. specialy not half or more. it is called a remix lol.
this is my subjective opinion and this is subjective i see talent and beauty in improvisation and originality
i don't force you to not listen to whatever remix you like there are some cool stuff too i just don't take this serious as original music. Original music is much more powerful and real to me
like take gms-juice
it is epic maybe better then the original for some but ... they would never make it without the real composer and you have no idea who he is.psy is much like this and not only psy its a shame for me but thats how it is. It is not new and ok with many artists and people.
I don't have the urge to take stuff from other peoples tunes by cutting the wavs somehow even if what i do is bullshit. [/imho]
http://soundcloud.com/magimix-1/chilling-forest-whispers
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psyraal
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Posted : Oct 9, 2012 21:01
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On 2012-10-09 14:36, daio wrote:
can't believe what i'm reading here about samples...stealing other's musics etc...wtf?? sampling is one of the basics of electronic production from it's roots.and that's because a producer doesn't have to be a musician.he can take harmonies and stick them to their beats.to tune them in their tunes!dudes amon tobin has made albums from sampling nature...now as for synth samples some are better in design and some in arrange...
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the process which most of us go through to re-create something awesome or at least audible from another sample is one of the most fun things we have avaiabale, but it's a totally different world to slap commercial trance well known samples to a tune a call it 'the new energy'
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willsanquil
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Posted : Oct 10, 2012 01:55
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Anyone trying to make up rules regarding what you sample and how you sample and all that is on a fool's errand.
Tons of people LOVE it when producers make shitty, shitty remixes or covers of old shit. take GMS for example. God damn some of their covers are so terrible, but people swoon over it.
Listen to what you like, sample what you like, and be done with it.
If you want to make an apple pie from scratch...you must first invent the universe
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daio
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Posted : Oct 10, 2012 10:16
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@dick hardman:i wasn't refering to the original post...mabe this sample pack sucks.
@psyraal:the same,just saw some opinions on this thread that i'm not into...
@daark:some use samples poorly,some make wonderful audio collages combining samples synths and beats...so it depends the use of them.
generally psytrance hasn't a big sampling tradition.most of them are sampled speech.
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daark
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Posted : Oct 11, 2012 14:04
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Beat Agency
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Posted : Oct 11, 2012 19:40
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On 2012-10-10 10:16, daio wrote:
generally psytrance hasn't a big sampling tradition.most of them are sampled speech.
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I beg to differ. If you know your psytrance/goatrance story well you would know sampling was used heavily from the beginning. My debut album from 1995 used lot of samples!
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Nectarios
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Posted : Oct 11, 2012 20:04
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Distorted Realities 1&2 sample CDs have been used lots. Obviously because the samples in them are absolutely brilliant, but that's just one example.
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Nomad Moon
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Posted : Oct 12, 2012 21:57
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For those who say psytranc doesn't use samples u should defenitly read this
there's a pdf called cultural
http://forum.isratrance.com/history-of-goa-trance-in-finland-1987-1998/
Only the last part is really about Finland, there's lots of dissertations on how tapes were glued toguether to make sometimes a loop of 20 mins. If that isn't sampling don't know what is
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