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So why doesnt Simon do that?
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*Karma Cola*
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Posted : May 6, 2006 03:59
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Just wondering about the whole "they go commercial because more more money's involved yada yada..." argument.
Look at GMS and IM nowadays. They have definitely changed their style to fit in with a wider audience and make themselves bigger and more fabulous right? Or maybe they just wanted to etc..etc.? but still, the psychedelia has diminshed in their music. Same with good ole Asher 'Skazi' Swissa, and ole boy Raja Ram.
So, why doesnt Simon Posford or Goa Gil or other huge old school guys do the same?
And these guys can draw crowds like pied pipers.
Goddam!!! I just dont get it. The recent releases of GMS and IM are so bloody stupid! Ok, maybe stupid is a harsh word, but u guys gotta admit something missing.
Like, who are u tryin to compete with? Tiesto? Van Buuren? Oakenfold?... they're in a different league altogether, and maybe for better or worse, but i know i wont be losing sleep if Tiesto is playin and i didnt get in.
All im saying is that.. these guys did make some genuinely touching psytrance somwhere.
Anyways, enough of this rant.. i just wanted some reasonable answers to this question, and feel free to curse, bitch and yell.
i prolly wont lose sleep over that as well 
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DETOX
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Posted : May 6, 2006 04:27
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Ever thought that Simon might not be in this scene of the money or that he is already rich?
Ever thought that Goa Gil is one of the most commercial djs out there for many years now no matter what music he makes or plays?
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singularity
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Posted : May 6, 2006 07:14
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the answer is simple..... avoid them if its so bad.. give new artists a chance .. maybe they have the answer to this chaos!!
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***Sideffect***
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Posted : May 6, 2006 07:33
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an artist has the right to create any kind of music he wants imo,
your taste if it's crap or not what is ok,
but why critizing they are changing direction or style ????
don't understand,
they want something else, ok do that,
making the same old music over and over again seems like very boring imo,
and trying to be commercial, in what direction is 1200 mics trying to be commercial ???
they changed ok, but there are new artist releasing albums this year who can be defined as you say as much commercial as them, you just don't have older albums to compare with that's all,
and what's wrong with goa getting commercial anyway...
it's music, cannot be denied to anybody imo,
I don't see a problem,
why doens't simon do it, mmmmmm I don't know but his sphongle ablums especially his second one had more 'worldmusic and latino influences' then goa influences imo so you could define that the same as you say...
I respect your opinion but don't think like that what is imo my right too I guess
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Kaz
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Posted : May 6, 2006 11:31
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Simon is getting more commercial. Check his latest releases - the third Shpongle album... Hell, anything since A Flock of Bleeps.
Instead of GMS that go for the Ibiza crowd, IM and Skazi for the younger people (12-16 year olds) and so on, Simon is becoming less and less experimental and more into guitars, chord progression and melodic/harmonic richness. That's also more commercial - just aiming at 30+ people that go less to parties and want more music to just listen to.
People seem to forget that the best selling albums from an artist from the psytrance scene are NOT by GMS or IM or anyone. It's Shpongle.
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Nathan
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Posted : May 6, 2006 11:32
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On 2006-05-06 03:59, *Karma Cola* wrote:
So why doesnt Simon do that?
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He has values and also the need to create psy Trance and not rock music with elements of psy Trance.
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Nathan
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Posted : May 6, 2006 11:38
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On 2006-05-06 11:31, kaz wrote:
Simon is getting more commercial. Check his latest releases - the third Shpongle album...
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I can't see something commercial in the 3rd album. It's not less good than the 2 before, maybe even better. The 3rd is one of the best music creations ever imho. Fusion of styles in a psy way. activates imagination in 1000000 ways and its shelf life will last forever.
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Pavel
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Posted : May 6, 2006 12:34
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Detox knows 
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On 2006-05-06 11:31, kaz wrote:
Simon is getting more commercial. Check his latest releases - the third Shpongle album... Hell, anything since A Flock of Bleeps.
Instead of GMS that go for the Ibiza crowd, IM and Skazi for the younger people (12-16 year olds) and so on, Simon is becoming less and less experimental and more into guitars, chord progression and melodic/harmonic richness. That's also more commercial - just aiming at 30+ people that go less to parties and want more music to just listen to.
People seem to forget that the best selling albums from an artist from the psytrance scene are NOT by GMS or IM or anyone. It's Shpongle.
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A. Welcome back baba
B. Disagree. IM and Yahel sold more then Shpongle. AFAIK
IM are the only psy act that i'm aware of that actually recieved gold album for sales anywhere in the world.
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Posted : May 6, 2006 12:37
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On 2006-05-06 11:31, kaz wrote:
Simon is getting more commercial. Check his latest releases - the third Shpongle album... Hell, anything since A Flock of Bleeps.
Instead of GMS that go for the Ibiza crowd, IM and Skazi for the younger people (12-16 year olds) and so on, Simon is becoming less and less experimental and more into guitars, chord progression and melodic/harmonic richness. That's also more commercial - just aiming at 30+ people that go less to parties and want more music to just listen to.
People seem to forget that the best selling albums from an artist from the psytrance scene are NOT by GMS or IM or anyone. It's Shpongle.
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So you mean that if you use real instruments then you are not experimental...OKAY |
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Posted : May 6, 2006 12:53
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On 2006-05-06 06:12, Voxmulox wrote:
GMS and IM are popular with the non-psy crowd as well...they pull a lot of non-psy housy, crowd too so they cater to them..
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Yes, GMS and Infected Mushroom have fans outside the psytrance-scene, but what does that have to do with house-music? The house-crowd (and I'm not only talking about the progressive psytrance/progressive house crossover) up here in Denmark would certainly never attend a party with Infected Mushroom or GMS.
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pr0fane
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Posted : May 6, 2006 12:58
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I Have to agree with kaz about Simon getting a more commercial sound on the 3rd Shpongle album (not that it's necessarily a bad thing). I have high hopes that his Metal Sharon collaboration album with Merv from Eat Static will be much more experimental though. DJ pr0fane (Iboga Records) | Multiphase
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strangefreakquency
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Posted : May 6, 2006 13:21
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so wat if its moving commercial lots of ppl like it and a lot dislike it
the ones who dislike it need to find other artists instead of complaining
and basically artists like infected , skazi , gms have given prolly the best shows ive seen here in bombay
wether commercial or not they r good at wat they do and its their choice so leave it up2 them
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The Green Channel
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Posted : May 6, 2006 13:37
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My reflections:
IMHO, Twisted Rec. is by far the most sophisticated, interesting and innovative label currently producing Psychedelic music, let alone “psy”-trance. Younger brother creates absolutely mind-blowing music, always morphing amid light and darkness, thus, creating sonic contrasts, which are so hard to find in our ideological bound scene. One of the latest tracks released by Hallucinogen, in the Grand Tourismo comp - was sheer brilliance – if that’s is generic music, then so be it.
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traveller
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Posted : May 6, 2006 14:24
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On 2006-05-06 11:31, kaz wrote:
Simon is getting more commercial. Check his latest releases - the third Shpongle album... Hell, anything since A Flock of Bleeps.
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Does this include the remix to annodalleb's "war" and the track he did together with lucas "pipeworm" ..as far from commercial as possible IMO
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