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Skazi gone Commercial? Never

Pt.
IsraTrance Senior Member

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Posted : Jul 27, 2006 20:08
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Hagai
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Posted : Jul 27, 2006 21:44
Well i'll try to be objective here as much as I can - when his debut album "Animal" was out 5 years ago, I went to a gig for the release of the album, and I got to speak with him - I remember a very lovely and nice person.
and whatever a person choose to do with his life and career is his own business, and i'm sure alot of people would like to be in Skazi's shoes, but as long as you don't harm other people, but this is not the situation here :
to be honest ? I don't like one bit of what he did to Psy-Trance, or Infected Mushroom and Astral Projection for that matter, been said here (I didn't read the interview) that he consider his music as Punktrance or whatever, I think there really should be a sub-genre for his music and his alike - Commercial Trance.
I don't think Psy-Trance will benefit anything from becoming closer to mainstream, it just loses it's identity as a true underground subculture, with all it's principles that me and i'm sure alot of other people was heavily influenced by it (the tribe, P.L.U.R. etc), and will just draw more bad influenece to the scene.
artists will make a more "formulatic" kind of Trance for the sake of money, and less for the music...
and it will bring much unwanted crowd to the scene.
unfortuneatly, this already happened.
because artists such as Skazi and the likes wanted to go mainstream for their own career and money, they exposed the Psy-Trance scene to the world, giving it a wider recognition, and taking it to a place that i'm not sure it wanted to be in... this is not good or "healthy" to the scene in anyway.
Psy-Trance should defenitly stay underground, and we should go seperate ways, making a new sub-genre - Commercial Trance (or Pop-Trance if you'd like).
Meijin


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Posted : Jul 28, 2006 18:20
@ Hagai:
you write

'it will bring much unwanted crowd to the scene.
unfortuneatly, this already happened. '

Yes, but that's the way things go, I remember nearly 10 years ago when the media began to pick up on Goan trance and they spun their own perspective on what it was...

Let's face it: the 'scene' is 10-fold what it was 10 years ago. These days there are many trance festivals, some are mega-big with '000s of people and others are still small and intimate with a few hundred.
Even within a small scene there will be people who are not so cool - c'est la vie - but I agree that there probably IS some ethical/moral dynamics associated with how the 'scene' is presented. After all, do we want to go to festivals with kilos of litter and lots of people drinking alchohol as opposed to....well, I know which I prefer

Having said that, it IS a different feeling to go to a big trance event and dance with '000s of people - a different sort of vibe if the crowd can pull it off

I think there is something to be said for the really positive things that have been achieved in the last 15 years thru the global effects of dance culture. Does dance music have a radical effect on culture? Does the insistance of people to have dance festivals, parties and 'love parades' in their cities change things? Does it make the authorities HAVE to listen and respond?

Staying 'underground' can mean staying true to one's principles, but the down-side is perhaps an elitist approach...after all, trance musicians are musicians and they have to try and play their music and sell tickets. This, of course, does not condone MNCs sponsorship - do we want to support artistes who wear Nike logos (like tennis stars) when we know that Nike has very dubious work ethics and practices in its third world factories?

I think, generally, the scene is pretty ethical in relation to capitalism - the real problem WITHIN the scene seems to be that people just don't buy (enough) music/cds/albums to keep things going. However, this may mean that musicians have to go on tour and play out more often - which might be good for everbody else.

The other real issue, as I see it, is the constrained existence trance culture has in a society which criminalizes certain types of behaviour - its difficult to get the message out when the medium is illegal. Its difficult to change the world when you're living underground.
Therefore, psy trance could expand exponentially if it made the right associations with those groups who also care about what IT (or its friends) care about - like peace, unity, environment, complexity and so on...

PEACE

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