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Shiva Joerg - The Illuminati (video clip )

Shawnodese
IsraTrance Full Member

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Posted : Feb 2, 2006 07:14
I t hink this topic should teach us all to be different from all those who rule/govern and control the world nowadays and give the right example. Also we tend to fight to much about differences of opinion and simular matters as politicians fight about. Let's step out of the duality trip and be all truly one instead of becoming part of a trip that us not ours in the first place as true human or other kinda beings !

Surrender, big respect on behalf of Joerg and me for re-opening the topic after you saw that you were mistaken and closed the topic for the wrong reasons.....it shows Isratrance sure has good moderators that don't get stuck in personal ego but are willing to look beyond their own points of perception....respect and thx again
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shivajoerg
Shiva Joerg

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Posted : Feb 2, 2006 07:27
love and big respect to all of you that posted here opinions and ideas ! even the ones iam not agree with ! in the end we are all a big dancing familie !
that is what makes us diffrent ,from politicans and goverments ,we are not declear War .if someone got a difrent opinion!

love and light to all of you
shivajoerg
Ben P


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Posted : Feb 2, 2006 21:26
i havnt read it all so i could be wrong but as i understad ppl here are talking about a group called the illuminty that conspire to rule the world and evry war that happend is a part of there plane.


well i just its so easy lets blame the "evil ppl" that conspire and tricked us to do evil.

when will ppl understand that there is no "illuminity" and no "devil" and the evil we make is only because of our self.

stop these conspiracy talking because that what realy lead to evil.
Shawnodese
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Posted : Feb 3, 2006 00:55
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On 2006-02-02 21:26, Ben P wrote:
well i just its so easy lets blame the "evil ppl" that conspire and tricked us to do evil.

when will ppl understand that there is no "illuminity" and no "devil" and the evil we make is only because of our self.

stop these conspiracy talking because that what realy lead to evil.




I like your vision m8, but of course it's a little bit more complicated then you put it here, but I agree fully that it would be to simple to blame it on the "evildoers", it takes a mass of "innocent" lame participating people in the whole game also to make it happen. That's why there's powerful people in our governments that work on things like "Mind Control" and "Mass Hypnoses", things that you will find information about on the internet if you have a good look. I believe it's not all our governments at all that are involved in stuff like this, but that there's a small group of fuck-ups using the powertools of governments (because of having access to it in some kinda way) for their fucked up plans of mass-destruction. But....it doesn't mean that we as "the people" are innocent and all our governments are evil....

After all...it takes 2 to tango !!
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Ben P


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Posted : Feb 3, 2006 08:35
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On 2006-02-02 21:26, Ben P wrote:
well i just its so easy lets blame the "evil ppl" that conspire and tricked us to do evil.

when will ppl understand that there is no "illuminity" and no "devil" and the evil we make is only because of our self.

stop these conspiracy talking because that what realy lead to evil.



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"I like your vision m8, but of course it's a little bit more complicated then you put it here, but I agree fully that it would be to simple to blame it on the "evildoers", it takes a mass of "innocent" lame participating people in the whole game also to make it happen. That's why there's powerful people in our governments that work on things like "Mind Control" and "Mass Hypnoses", things that you will find information about on the internet if you have a good look. I believe it's not all our governments at all that are involved in stuff like this, but that there's a small group of fuck-ups using the powertools of governments (because of having access to it in some kinda way) for their fucked up plans of mass-destruction. But....it doesn't mean that we as "the people" are innocent and all our governments are evil....

After all...it takes 2 to tango !! "
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thanx m8 that half of what im saying

i also saying that there isnt one force who control it all like "iluminity" its not new that ppl blame all the bad on thing who conspire to rule the world.

its was the devil, the jews, the islam and now the evil is "iluminity" there is no foreign "devil" the devil is inside our all

keystone
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Feb 3, 2006 11:19
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On 2006-02-03 08:35, Ben P wrote:
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On 2006-02-02 21:26, Ben P wrote:
well i just its so easy lets blame the "evil ppl" that conspire and tricked us to do evil.

when will ppl understand that there is no "illuminity" and no "devil" and the evil we make is only because of our self.

stop these conspiracy talking because that what realy lead to evil.



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"I like your vision m8, but of course it's a little bit more complicated then you put it here, but I agree fully that it would be to simple to blame it on the "evildoers", it takes a mass of "innocent" lame participating people in the whole game also to make it happen. That's why there's powerful people in our governments that work on things like "Mind Control" and "Mass Hypnoses", things that you will find information about on the internet if you have a good look. I believe it's not all our governments at all that are involved in stuff like this, but that there's a small group of fuck-ups using the powertools of governments (because of having access to it in some kinda way) for their fucked up plans of mass-destruction. But....it doesn't mean that we as "the people" are innocent and all our governments are evil....

After all...it takes 2 to tango !! "
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thanx m8 that half of what im saying

i also saying that there isnt one force who control it all like "iluminity" its not new that ppl blame all the bad on thing who conspire to rule the world.

its was the devil, the jews, the islam and now the evil is "iluminity" there is no foreign "devil" the devil is inside our all



What you are saying is common knowlege. But my friend their is such evil out there and alot of bad ppl who pray and feed to forefill there evil agenda...War I think is one good exsample.....Someone is profiting from this, With this profit, possibly would be used to finance another evil agendas and so forth.I am no expert on these things but I dont think,in a global sense, that these thing happen not out of coinsidence....Someone is pushing the bottons and this topic was just posted to make ppl aware of that......Oh yeah,Forgot to mention THE VIDEO KICKED ASS JOERG!!!!!SO DID THE TRACK!!!!!!BOOOOOOOOM!!!
Ben P


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Posts :  259
Posted : Feb 3, 2006 11:52
@keystone
i think difreant human has allways fight eachother even when nobody profit nothing out of it. it a part of our nature i guses.just that some people learned how to make profit out of this bad nature.

the evil is in all of us. some people know how to make money from it. bit the reason for the wars is us.
Bob Lob Law
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Feb 3, 2006 12:30
speak for yourself Ben P evil may be in u but not in me or my family and neither my freinds and i cant recall anyone i know ever wanted war or to take any part in war           It is my FIRM BELIEF that it is a mistake to hold FIRM BELIEFS.

"GOD SAVE US FROM RELIGION".
Ben P


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Posted : Feb 3, 2006 15:30
wars happend because ppl think they are good and
the other side is pure evil that just want war.

believe me that im not in any way more evil then you are.

well i dont recall my self ever asking for war but its doesnt mean i dont have evil inside me same as evryone else. unlike you i know it.
Bob Lob Law
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Feb 3, 2006 20:26
once again my dear brother Ben P evil may reside in you but not me....           It is my FIRM BELIEF that it is a mistake to hold FIRM BELIEFS.

"GOD SAVE US FROM RELIGION".
DiMiTry
IsraTrance Full Member

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Posted : Feb 3, 2006 22:25
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On 2006-02-03 20:26, isralien604 wrote:
once again my dear brother Ben P evil may reside in you but not me....






you get the prize for best use of rhyme on Isratrance.
          ..it's just another party..
DeLySiD CoOkInG
Delysid / Wicked Wires

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Posts :  332
Posted : Feb 4, 2006 07:37
killa video clip and nice tune!!

good work as alwys from shiva space....u guys have the technology...jejejje

boom!!!
Shawnodese
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Posted : Feb 4, 2006 20:30
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On 2006-02-03 20:26, isralien604 wrote:
once again my dear brother Ben P evil may reside in you but not me....




You would be the 1st person on earth not to have any evil in ya bro....I think it's time to get real....no harm meant though but I think this is a bit beyond reality !           Mind Funk Records
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Bob Lob Law
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Posted : Feb 5, 2006 00:32
not beyond my reality m8,and ur right theres some kinda evil in all of us but i wouldnt go as far as calling it ''evil'' its not the kinda evil that makes u want to go out there and bomb nations and innocent people and destroy there way of life because their beliefs r different then yours....

RaknahS MooB.           It is my FIRM BELIEF that it is a mistake to hold FIRM BELIEFS.

"GOD SAVE US FROM RELIGION".
dE.Tonatik
Detonatik

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Posts :  2374
Posted : Feb 5, 2006 10:16
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On 2006-02-02 07:27, shivajoerg wrote:

! in the end we are all a big dancing familie !
that is what makes us diffrent ,from politicans and goverments ,we are not declear War .if someone got a difrent opinion!





U SAID IT RIGHT BABA .

cant wait for the party on 12 here in bomb-bay , india.

still remember the massacare at jaani's farms , bombay-pune 5 years back .
12 hours of MADNESS .



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