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RatInAKage
IsraTrance Junior Member

Started Topics :  26
Posts :  117
Posted : May 31, 2006 17:02
codea baby.

I think what you need to do is take Shift's new album and play it backwards. This ought to give you what you're looking for.

Then when you're bored of it, play it backwards and forewards at the same time. Call it the Chaos remix or something.

should get rid of any softcore elements...

(Not sure how a dancefloor would react to this, but it should make for some nice home listening. Especially, whilst performing gothic rituals in your bedroom)

as for me, im more of a light and fluffy trance lover. if that makes me a commercial sellout then so be it. but remember, thats the way psytrance started. peacefull hippy types with bongo drums and all. its only later you guys came with your demands for nightmare acid death trance.
l337
IsraTrance Full Member

Started Topics :  55
Posts :  817
Posted : May 31, 2006 17:40
Quote:

On 2006-05-31 12:04, Caligula wrote:
code a - I'm all for free speech so i couldnt care what you say about anyone, but well done in killing the South African side of this forum. Your obstinate negativity and personal opinion snobbishness are ridiculously puerile. It isn't the fact that you disagree with timecode's style and image, its your manner of argument. You constantly attempt to express yourself as an authority, which unless you are a producer of some minute reputation/talent/ability I feel you should hold back on the 'Absoluteness' of your statements. Its the transparent false arrogance thats tiring everyone, not your attention-seeking comments.

Please do continue to debate the issue, but do it with respect. If you don't like something, for example tickets' phantom rmx, then say it, and invite other opinion, but to say "I won't even go there" is worthy only of a primary school playground.




i dont think there is anything wrong with the way code A is approaching this "debate" .....alot of what he is saying is actualy true...

many south africans , especially the ignorant young ones think Timecode is the ultimate in dark psy, nightmares....blah blha....and they sell themselves as this, yet in reality, its hardly the case

quite frankly SA trance is static....it all sounds the same and it gets manotomous and boring very quickly,no soul in the music,...

as far as killing the forum , quite the opposite,,,,...this forum is only ever busy when code a is ranting, whenever we dont have a tuning session, this forum is about as boring as watching grass grow!

i have prepared a scary template for all of you timecode fans


x - kick
0 - bass
s - random slquech sound
v - cheesy vocal

<kick/bass (4/4)
x000x000x000x000|x000x000x000x000|
s s s ssssssssssssss
v+all l337 effects
l337
IsraTrance Full Member

Started Topics :  55
Posts :  817
Posted : May 31, 2006 17:45
Quote:

On 2006-05-31 17:02, RatInAKage wrote:
but remember, thats the way psytrance started. peacefull hippy types with bongo drums and all. its only later you guys came with your demands for nightmare acid death trance.



i rate you should do some research....goa trance/trance descended from acid house/techno.....wasnt hippies with bongo drums....

code a's point is not....oh look all trance must be dark death trance, his point is ...timecode and shift should not sell themselves as somthign they are not....

thats the point.

half the support and kids at trrance parties are only there because they are under the misconception that the music is so scary and hardcore.....maybe its tik that makes it so scary, cant say i am ever going to try listening to ttrance while on tik
Caligula
IsraTrance Junior Member

Started Topics :  12
Posts :  608
Posted : May 31, 2006 18:10
@l337 - the negativity is having the effect of less people visiting this forum... every thread for while was a collection of childish rantings from code a or mandark... and many an interesting discussion was broken down into arguments, and not healthy debate.

my point wasn't that what he is saying isn't true... its the manner he brings it across. i couldn't care what his views on timecode are, or anyone else's for that matter... if you like it, good for you, if not... good for you.

but if you have something to say, say it as if you were sitting across from the person and not hiding behind a screen (i'm referring to code a here).

"half the support and kids at trrance parties are only there because they are under the misconception that the music is so scary and hardcore"

i'm not sure which parties you've been attending in cape town, but i find this comment confusing... the only time there are 'kids' at trance parties is generally december vortex or new years, and most of the acts at those parties are big name morning acts... i reckon these people come for the 'rave' aspect and not because of the evil music at all.

how have you managed to logically connect timecode's popularity and tik?

will anyone ever be happy with the most popular in the business?

also, when did timecode ever try to market themselves as 'dark death trance'? i don't think such a genre exists except in the mind of the hooded night prowler on acid. in terms of hard music.. i would say timecode are up there, locally and globally. what about phyx? everyone says 'shift, shift, shift' but can you possibly argue that phyx's tunes aren't hard, and somewhat 'evil'?           difficile est non saturam scribere
Caligula
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posts :  608
Posted : May 31, 2006 18:12
also... i believe goa trance decended from psychedelic rock on the beaches there in the 70's?

isn't there an article about that on this site?

i may be wrong.. just throwing it out there..           difficile est non saturam scribere
mandark


Started Topics :  9
Posts :  63
Posted : Jun 1, 2006 08:46
thats the point,none of there tracks are psychedelic,neva mind being evil, they r jst HARD.

its like listenin 2 hard tance,if i knew all partys were gna play that shit,id rathta stay in cape town nd go 2 gallery!

its not realy the point of it being evil, but atleast if it was "psychedelic"...

the same old boring music is heard at partys,realy heavy bassline,deffining hihats nd snares, nd then like 1 synth...sounds pretty crazy 2 me...hahaha

Caligula - if code a and i r so childish, y do u reply..?
gues ur not big enough 2 walk away...
Caligula
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posts :  608
Posted : Jun 1, 2006 11:32
that's right, i'm not.. or perhaps i'm attempting to show you how you're coming across.

if parties are so boring.. and the music so dull.. why is it that you go? why do you claim to like psytrance? why are you even on this forum?

do you also frequent pop forums and tell them how shit their music is?           difficile est non saturam scribere
mandark


Started Topics :  9
Posts :  63
Posted : Jun 1, 2006 15:01
i love u 2 caligula

Caligula
IsraTrance Junior Member

Started Topics :  12
Posts :  608
Posted : Jun 1, 2006 16:00
haha fair enough.           difficile est non saturam scribere
slug
Slug

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Posts :  114
Posted : Jun 1, 2006 18:50
Maybe the whole debate could be ended if Code a just got a personal apology from someone at Timecode for ever labelling themselves as dark or hardcore, when they dont meet his standard. Maybe the next Timecode CD should say "WARNING: dont buy this CD if you're into dark psy cos its not really that dark, compared to some other artsts".

Then he can be happy, the tik smoking kids will not be decieved any longer, and justice will be done.
zakesm
IsraTrance Junior Member

Started Topics :  14
Posts :  171
Posted : Jun 2, 2006 09:21
bwahahahahahahaha!
tik tik boom its only time, dont worry!

just ban them FFS
l337
IsraTrance Full Member

Started Topics :  55
Posts :  817
Posted : Jun 2, 2006 17:42
Quote:

On 2006-05-31 18:12, Caligula wrote:
also... i believe goa trance decended from psychedelic rock on the beaches there in the 70's?

isn't there an article about that on this site?

i may be wrong.. just throwing it out there..




goa trance came about from some dj's in goa playing acid house and techno with differing synthy elements, but yes they did do stuff on the beach, if you search the main forum you shuold find the history of goa link/thread.

psy transcending from techno and acid house, not rock.
l337
IsraTrance Full Member

Started Topics :  55
Posts :  817
Posted : Jun 2, 2006 17:44
Quote:

On 2006-06-02 09:21, zakesm wrote:
bwahahahahahahaha!
tik tik boom its only time, dont worry!

just ban them FFS



why ban???

thats about as bad as the ANC and ID in cape town trying to dippose of the mayor of cape town ......

i mean come on.....there is actually debate here, its nice
l337
IsraTrance Full Member

Started Topics :  55
Posts :  817
Posted : Jun 2, 2006 17:46
Quote:

On 2006-05-31 18:10, Caligula wrote:
@l337 - the negativity is having the effect of less people visiting this forum... every thread for while was a collection of childish rantings from code a or mandark... and many an interesting discussion was broken down into arguments, and not healthy debate.





no not really, without any of this rant this side of the forum is lank boring....

i have been on isratrance for 2 years and the SA forum is generally very boring.
l337
IsraTrance Full Member

Started Topics :  55
Posts :  817
Posted : Jun 2, 2006 17:47
Quote:

On 2006-06-01 18:50, slug wrote:
Maybe the whole debate could be ended if Code a just got a personal apology from someone at Timecode for ever labelling themselves as dark or hardcore, when they dont meet his standard. Maybe the next Timecode CD should say "WARNING: dont buy this CD if you're into dark psy cos its not really that dark, compared to some other artsts".

Then he can be happy, the tik smoking kids will not be decieved any longer, and justice will be done.



i agree with you Slug, Timecode should definiterly appoligise to code a and mandark!

and that warning sticker is a good idea!@
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