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exotic
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Posted : Dec 24, 2005 14:31
There's this track in the compilation hasta la patillas furious - run forest . Its a pounding track but the only problem rather 'glitch' in the track are the samples .. there's one from the sitcom everybody loves raymond about some id card and becoming a drug dealer .. then there's one immediately after from fight club tyler durden saying welcome to fight club and he finishes off with run forest !

now what arouses my curiosity is why would one use samples which dont make sense .. and that too from here and there just for the heck for adding something ..they dont fit anywhere in the storyline of track ..

do samples really make a difference to a track as such ? is it just meant to add a little humour instead of making sense in the context in which it is used ? or am i making a big deal of this ?

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Nathan
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Posted : Dec 24, 2005 14:35
We may not understand thing like that. Track sometimes can be very personal or a privet joke.           -=The Meaning Of Life Is To Give Life A Meaning=
raider
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Posted : Dec 24, 2005 14:36
This occurs often, I believe. Another example is in CPU - Clone Army Version 2.0, where there's sampled from Attack Of The Clones and right after you hear a sample "You had me cloned. You've cloned the wrong man" that simple doesn't fit in, sounding nothing like Jango Fett It just seems forced.
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Krell
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Posted : Dec 24, 2005 14:40
I think some artists might be missing the point of using voice samples in the first place, or else they are trying to achieve something that we misunderstand - hard to tell.

Hehe, but yeah, that stuff happens - it can ruin a track completely I think.

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exotic
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Posted : Dec 24, 2005 14:47
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On 2005-12-24 14:35, Nathan wrote:
We may not understand thing like that. Track sometimes can be very personal or a privet joke.




true but it should make sense thats what im saying .. we may not understand the privet joke but you are screwing up someones else trip .. they should be responsible as musicians thats all .
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Nathan
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Posted : Dec 24, 2005 15:01
Well, I believe that artists make tracks first of all to themselves and in the 2nd place to us- its justified. So sometimes there are bad samples. If the artists need to express him self in that way, so be it. After all, most of the samples are nice.
I personally hate drug samples but like those that create an atmosphere. Anyway, the music is the important part, samples are just a spice.
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exotic
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Posted : Dec 24, 2005 15:09
Good you brought up the issue about drug samples nathan . I hate them myself . The other day i was playing save the robot and one of the tracks has this sample 'psychedelic hallucinations ' .. my dad was standing outside the room and he gave me that quizzical look and walked away . Really , they should just do away with those .
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Nathan
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Posted : Dec 24, 2005 15:15
This kind of samples, give only bad promotion to Trance. Its just proves the stigma that trance is a drug music - to bad, to sad.           -=The Meaning Of Life Is To Give Life A Meaning=
Nathan
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Posted : Dec 24, 2005 15:26
And now to get out of this negative state, here is an example for a brilliant usage of samples all over this master peace:
Shulman - soundscapes and modern tales.

Goes very well with the story about the small grey creatures in the album.

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headyatail2000
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Posted : Dec 24, 2005 16:12
skazi goin on wid skazi skazi skazi!!
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Posted : Dec 24, 2005 17:14
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On 2005-12-24 14:36, raider wrote:
This occurs often, I believe. Another example is in CPU - Clone Army Version 2.0, where there's sampled from Attack Of The Clones and right after you hear a sample "You had me cloned. You've cloned the wrong man" that simple doesn't fit in, sounding nothing like Jango Fett It just seems forced.




thats because that line is sampled from Arnold Schwarzenegger's "6th day"...
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Brain_Storm
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Posted : Dec 24, 2005 19:27
i had a theory about that , artists do it to try and distinguish their track bu adding samples that are easy to recognize and by that to relate the track to the artist..
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Posted : Dec 24, 2005 21:58
http://forum.isratrance.com/viewtopic.php/topic/72768/forum/17


maybe there are some answers there:)

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Nobita
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Posted : Dec 24, 2005 22:19
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On 2005-12-24 15:09, =((exotic>>>=== wrote:
Good you brought up the issue about drug samples nathan . I hate them myself . The other day i was playing save the robot and one of the tracks has this sample 'psychedelic hallucinations ' .. my dad was standing outside the room and he gave me that quizzical look and walked away . Really , they should just do away with those .




It is psychedelic music at the base you know. The artists who make it find inspiration in psychedelics, hence sometimes like to make references to the subject matter of the music. If you're buying 100% acid-head music (TIP records), don't be surprised at such references           Row row row your boats gently down the stream; merrily merrily merrily merrily life is but a dream.
exotic
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Posted : Dec 25, 2005 11:07
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On 2005-12-24 22:19, Demezriel wrote:
It is psychedelic music at the base you know. The artists who make it find inspiration in psychedelics, hence sometimes like to make references to the subject matter of the music. If you're buying 100% acid-head music (TIP records), don't be surprised at such references




thats why i try and keep away from pure acid music coz they're bound be drug refrences . it would be a whole lot better if they use vocal samples that sound psychedelic than chiched 'inpirational'drug samples we all know and have been through in the past three years right ? all i mean to say is that they can try project the 'trippy' parts in their music with better samples . Ghreg on earth for example           missing plug-in
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