MetaHyde
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Posted : Aug 10, 2006 20:11
Well, i want to send my dj demo to Labels. Can anyone give me some suggestions? im thinking sendin a 2 hours set.
thx in advance n PEACE
Krell
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Posted : Aug 10, 2006 20:16
Send them 2 things.
1 CD Audio - So they can listen where they have a CD Player. (80 minutte set).
1 ISO CD - With MP3 featuring a full length DJ set.
Dont expect them to want to listen to the MP3s, since they might not have a system set up so that is convenient for them.
Either way, know that most label people listen through shitloads of stuff already, be it new music, demos or whatever.
So, you need to make it as easy for them as possible.
MetaHyde
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Posted : Aug 10, 2006 20:28
i was thinking to record 80 mins or 2 hours long set...i have asked so many ppl, some say that long hours dj set can see a dj's skill and his/her trip, on the other hand, i want to burn my mix on cd and send to foreign labels, which i think Label will be more satisfy to receive a cd with full heart. Sendin them a upload website like yousendit or sendpace is quite un-lovely.
Krell
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Posted : Aug 10, 2006 22:35
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On 2006-08-10 20:28, MetaHyde wrote:
i was thinking to record 80 mins or 2 hours long set...i have asked so many ppl, some say that long hours dj set can see a dj's skill and his/her trip, on the other hand, i want to burn my mix on cd and send to foreign labels, which i think Label will be more satisfy to receive a cd with full heart. Sendin them a upload website like yousendit or sendpace is quite un-lovely.
Jeto
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Posted : Aug 10, 2006 23:15
Set ID's for the tracks so they can browse through the mix fast if desired.
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Posted : Aug 11, 2006 00:04
Make sure it's either Full on, Dark Psy or Progressive.
Make sure it doesn't deviate from the formula.
Make sure you don't change styles through the mix.
If you're a girl add 3 extra points.
A good looking girl will get additional 2 points.
Good luck.
parapsyched
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Posted : Aug 11, 2006 00:49
why would lables wnat to hear dj sets?
thats what i wanna know...
they are probably looking for original material no?
if u dig deep enough u just might reach the sky...
MॐZC4L1†0
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Posted : Aug 11, 2006 04:09
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On 2006-08-11 00:49, parapsyched wrote:
why would lables wnat to hear dj sets?
thats what i wanna know...
they are probably looking for original material no?
yes yes, i think so 2... The era of the dj has died, nowdays its produce or die haha, there`s no more, if u want to make it u`ll have 2 produce.... so lets foucs on it Memento Mori
mquirk1
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Posted : Aug 11, 2006 10:13
Well the info still applies for sending stuff to promoters
Krell
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Posted : Aug 11, 2006 12:47
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On 2006-08-11 04:09, MॐZC4L1†0 wrote:
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On 2006-08-11 00:49, parapsyched wrote:
why would lables wnat to hear dj sets?
thats what i wanna know...
they are probably looking for original material no?
yes yes, i think so 2... The era of the dj has died, nowdays its produce or die haha, there`s no more, if u want to make it u`ll have 2 produce.... so lets foucs on it
Your wrong.
The thing is, every 14 year old kid can start producing music now, by pirating software.
This means that it is becoming increasingly difficult to stand out as a production artist, if you want your musical quality to rival that of a good DJ.
On top of that, you will, as a production artist, have to compete with other producers who are already well established, and have a huge track selection to choose from.
What it all comes down to is, that in the end what the audience will want is 2 things. 1: Quality 2: Diversity, noone can supply those better than a DJ.
While the production artist will have to spend his time producing own tracks, only being able to exploit his own time & talent, the DJ can spend his time listening to all the stuff others deemed release worhty and take his pick.
In the end, the DJ spending 10 hours searching for music will be able to present a much better set than a live act spending 10 DAYS on production.
What this means is that DJs can cut costs, supply a better product at a lower price. All in all, they are more competitive.
Now - We are not talking "in the now", but we are talking "in the future".
What makes all this happen is the fact I presented to you in the beginning, and that is that every 14 year old can produce music now.... Its not THAT "special" anymore... not more special than proper and talented DJing.
In the end, what people want, is quality and diversity - ESPECIALLY in the future, since there will be more and more copy paste uncreative production artists than ever before.
The DJ is the key. Especially with so many peoples urge to "get back to the roots".
Perhaps not on parties resembling soccer matches like this one
- but at the REAL psychedelic scene parties, where people dance with their eyes shut and communicate with the individual and collective mind, the DJ will rule.
Why ? Because new experiences, diversity and quality will be the values people seek.
And who would want to spin at a soccer match anyway ? Its fake You might as well spin at a tiesto scooter rave thingy..........
At least, Im not worried, I think the future is looking very bright for talented djing artists as well as talented production artists.
If promotional effect is put over musical content, then its no longer a psychedelic trance party. So, why would the true psychedelic DJ worry about that ?
Dennis the menace
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Posted : Aug 13, 2006 21:42
i wouldnt choose a labeldj out of a mixtape...
i prefer to see the person in action first
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Posted : Aug 14, 2006 21:30
@ Krell...welll said bro!!..although i think in the psy scene....the artist gets more recognition than the DJ...hope this will change in the near future....for a healthy and quality psy experience!!!!
BOOM!
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Posted : Aug 15, 2006 01:40
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On 2006-08-13 21:42, Dennis the menace wrote:
i wouldnt choose a labeldj out of a mixtape...
i prefer to see the person in action first
good point.. but at least if you here the demo mix and it sucks, then you know there is no hope.. lol..
but yeah, generally in a demomix, you can't tell how many times the DJ retarted the mix or if he wrote his playlist on paper with the bpms' n shit to guide his set through.. so yeah, in the mix LIVE is much more appropriate !!
MetaHyde
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Posted : Aug 15, 2006 09:42
i like to play dark, twisted and evil ones, and im thinking bout sending some dark labels like Psybertribe, Devilminds, Deja vu...
Krell
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Posted : Aug 15, 2006 13:43
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On 2006-08-15 01:40, clown wrote:
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On 2006-08-13 21:42, Dennis the menace wrote:
i wouldnt choose a labeldj out of a mixtape...
i prefer to see the person in action first
you can't tell how many times the DJ retarted the mix or if he wrote his playlist on paper with the bpms' n shit to guide his set through.. so yeah, in the mix LIVE is much more appropriate !!
I use playlists for my sets, but I dont need them to play. I often leave the list, and go on the fly, and sometimes I return to the list again. Depends on the party. List just work better for me, makes it more interesting for the crowd, that is the only thing that matters.
Besides, writing down BPMs isnt that much of an advantage - Its a very small one at that, since its not really THAT difficult to set the pitch right... I mean 0,6 0,7 or 0,8, depending on BPM - vary up and down a few BPMs, all subgenre tracks are usually within 5bpms of each other. Its a task you could almost teach a monkey to be honest.
The hard part is the accurate pitch bending at the same time a EQing and perhaps during cuts at appropriate places (especially with dark psy and 0,1% precision cd players).
The most challenging part is the flow and track selection... all the rest is, after all, just mechanics. Djing technique I put on the same level as sound quality, while the flow represents vision & understanding.
But I agree with the first stuff you write, at least you will find out if the DJ is completely retarded.
A "Live" performance isnt a guarantee either - Everyone knows that DJs have good and bad days, depending on many things.
So, someone might suck when you hear them live, but actually its because they had little to no sleep for 2 days and also have a bad stomach and need to take a dump hehe - Who knows ?
I prefer to listen to demo mixes, while I would love to catch them "live" as well - it would make booking overseas DJs almost impossible to make it a demand.
The only ones getting bookings would be the ones spinning at festivals, making it even more difficult to get gigs for everyone else, compounding the problem which is that a DJs name is a much larger booking factor than a DJs talent & devotion.
The best DJs I know, use lists, but - I think, the important thing is that the DJ does whatever works best for him in the given situation - Since people are very different. Strengths lie in different areas.
As a party organizer, Im beginning to become interested in whether it might be a good idea to shuffle up these techniques. Or if it really doesnt matter in regards to lineups.
You might as well spin at a tiesto scooter rave thingy..........
