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Apocalypse Now
IsraTrance Full Member

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Posted : Feb 14, 2003 01:20
Jason,

I can understand your frustration about putting your heart and soul into orgaznizing a party and then coming here and reading about someone criticizing what you've done.

But that doesn't mean that you can come here and write the nasty things that you just wrote, you obviously have a problem with Israelis but I would recommend saving that for a site thats not called ISRAtrance.

Yes we might have weird smoking habits and unfortunately we need to serve in the army (it's not a matter of choice like you might think) but that's no excuse for the disgusting tone of voice you use. I don't care who you are or how many parties you organized that's not the way we talk here at Isratrance.

I think you need to learn how to deal with criticism because you probably just offended a very large and important group of people and I wouldn't be suprised if you saw the results of that at your next gathering. Israelis are and always will be the backbone of any psy-trance party no matter where in the world it is held.

The Israeli sound is much more then just Astral Projection, Infected Mushroom etc. We have lots of psy-tech and minimal/progressive acts like:
BLT, Hujaboy/Booreka, Cosma (RIP), Evil Drug Lords, Insect Sun, LISH, Molecular, Pixel, Sub6, PPS Project, and many many more.

So think a little bit next time before you get into a piss fight with one of the users here. Especially when you were completely unprovoked and the user you have a problem with did not go against any of the rules in the guidelines. Speaking of I suggest that you read them before you reply.

Don't get me wrong we would love to have you here at Isratrance, All I'm asking for is a little bit of patience and respect.

Peace man and keep up the good work. Maybe I'll see you at the Son Kite party in April and I can show you just how effective those half-liter bongs can be           Both teams played hard
kowens
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posts :  218
Posted : Feb 14, 2003 05:48
Jason needs to learn some manners and respect peoples opinions a little bit more, that is the exact attitude that i hate to see at parties. grow up guy..peace..

Apocalypse now...way to lay the smack down...nice way to put it..boom
subtlechaos

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Posted : Feb 14, 2003 07:47
Hey peeps,
Please dont get me wrong i have alot of israeli
friends here and back in Europe.
I am sorry if i sent this in a really negative direction . It may have sound like stereotyping but it was not a general feeling about the whole of Israeli community it was
directed at the israeli's who attend our parties as well as a few others and scream and abuse the dj's etc because they are not playing full on sound with alot of melody.
These promoters get told they are not making psy trance parties and that their music is not psychedelic i.e(Atmos)had fruit thrown at him as well as another dj from Spectra. This particular guy(psychoclown) very much offended myself and associates who also do the party scene.We have been doing parties here for years and always played more Tekky sound than the full on goa
style we never will and never have hidden this fact.........................so like i say sincerely
sorry for the offensive comment's.
And i'll hold you to the bottle session too.
Apocalypse Now
IsraTrance Full Member

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Posted : Feb 14, 2003 08:57
sounds good man, looking foward to it.

          Both teams played hard
PsYcHoClOwN
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posts :  53
Posted : Feb 14, 2003 09:23
well jason, i dont see in my first massage where i have offended you. just for your knowledge, i was in that atmos party and i know what you are talking about, but i am not one of those people who does anything bad to the djs or to the party itself. some people, israelies and non israelies (by the way, you made the seperation, i was talking for wider crowd in trance scene in new york) know me here and in that atmos party they asked me why the israelis are so mad. my answer for them as well as for you is that i understand their anger, but i dont justify what they did. but still i wont tell them to stop for the same reason i wont tell a dj that play bad music to get off the dj stand. and back to my point of opening this thread...many people here (no, not only israelis) want to come to a party and take out stress and hard work they had during the week, and many of them come to a party here and dont get the hardcore trance they need. thats why less and less people going to parties here. so if any organizer, or promoter, or whoever, is interested, just listen to the people, and dont defend yourself or attack others because you dont like the facts.
too bad jason that was your attitude, and also too bad you are too proud to answer in a normal way like a true dj, or atleast to find out who is the person you are responding to.

p.s
writing you are sorry about offensive comments after all that stuff you were writing about israelis, and doing that only after 2 people were critising you for it is kind of....fake.

adios.
subtlechaos

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Posts :  5
Posted : Feb 14, 2003 17:31

What are you talking about you slated SC you said the Organizers blamed us for the party dying.
Actually they didnt blame us and that is a plain and simple fact.
Dont give me shit for apoligizing to the people outside this conversation this was my first time on this site and the comments were directed at you and any of your ars mates who come to our gatherings and tell us we are not playing psychedelic music like i told you DO NOT attend any event we have something to do with.
What do you mean you understand their anger there is a really simple solution to this................learn your music and learn the
style of the dj's at a party you are thinking of going to.
I have never heard so much crap from a small group of people.
Heres a scenario for you .......you see a flyer
Atmos,Spectra & Subtlechaos are playing you know for sure they are not playing full on Goa.
Why would you go knowing their style.
Tell me please i'm curious because it only seems to be party people who have never made a large scale party or who even DJ that are so quick to critisize events.
Let me know how many parties you have made and what events you have dj'd at.
You tell me yo actually know the people who were offensive towards Tomas and spectra and you didnt ask them to stop...you just let them insult and hurt the feelings of someone who has played a very large part in the progress of trance throughout the world.
If you or anyone attends a event and i caught you throwing fruit or one of your friends throwing fruit or shouting at one of the dj's playing i would have one of those 500 pound 6 ft 5'' security guards remove you preferably by your throat thru a window
(before yo retort this is a generalized comment to anyone who thinks they can do this disrespectful act to anybody).
Promoters make parties so people can have fun this is the be all and end all of making a party.
P.S and whilst you are telling me of all the events you have made and all the events you have played at define to me what a true dj is.

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On 2003-02-14 09:23, PsYcHoClOwN wrote:
well jason, i dont see in my first massage where i have offended you. just for your knowledge, i was in that atmos party and i know what you are talking about, but i am not one of those people who does anything bad to the djs or to the party itself. some people, israelies and non israelies (by the way, you made the seperation, i was talking for wider crowd in trance scene in new york) know me here and in that atmos party they asked me why the israelis are so mad. my answer for them as well as for you is that i understand their anger, but i dont justify what they did. but still i wont tell them to stop for the same reason i wont tell a dj that play bad music to get off the dj stand. and back to my point of opening this thread...many people here (no, not only israelis) want to come to a party and take out stress and hard work they had during the week, and many of them come to a party here and dont get the hardcore trance they need. thats why less and less people going to parties here. so if any organizer, or promoter, or whoever, is interested, just listen to the people, and dont defend yourself or attack others because you dont like the facts.
too bad jason that was your attitude, and also too bad you are too proud to answer in a normal way like a true dj, or atleast to find out who is the person you are responding to.

p.s
writing you are sorry about offensive comments after all that stuff you were writing about israelis, and doing that only after 2 people were critising you for it is kind of....fake.

adios.

PsYcHoClOwN
IsraTrance Junior Member

Started Topics :  14
Posts :  53
Posted : Feb 14, 2003 21:18
jason, you should choose your words more carefully. this massages exchange with you got boring enough, so whoever ELSE understands what i was talking about, and is mature enough not to take it as personal remarks about his/ her taste in music is wellcome to reply, as for you Mr. dj just be strong and ignore this thread.

yalla bye
zhenka


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Posts :  1
Posted : Feb 14, 2003 23:19
guys listen as i sad long time ago a good party has to have a combination of all kinds of trance techno progressive full on and morning only that way we can achive the unity love and happinese that we had when the partys only begon at 92 93 94 the athmospyre then was the best i attended couple of good parties in the last year all around the world brazil japan israel greece
and all of them had all the kinds of trance we have to unite in order to grow in us and to add new people and intreduce them to this wonderfull music and way of life we can do that in ny also and all round the us but surrely we have to wait till summer to have the outdoor partys to feel this energy and love that we feel in a reel good party psychoclown im also israeli so we r brothers i hear u but remember the partys ba arets they had progressive also at night there r people who love it peace and love in trance
pactumtum


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Posts :  1
Posted : Feb 14, 2003 23:39
Let's stop fighting

live act:
stralia (neurobiotic rec.brazil)
influx (dream cather.brazil)
djs
Marcelo V.O.R (neurobiotic.brazil)
di Influx (dream cather .brazil)

www.turbinadocorp.com/dreamcather.htm
That seens to be a really nice one
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