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rave hippie punks VS normal ordinary persons

Troll@CrackWhoreModels
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Posted : Oct 4, 2005 15:49
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On 2005-10-04 03:50, Bes wrote:
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no wonder...you sleep with monkeys right



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s0ft
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Posted : Oct 4, 2005 16:39
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On 2005-10-04 04:45, kin beat wrote:
I hate them too they actually scare me sometimes specialy when they're use to catalogue somebody and make'em one more of the bunch....



my theory:
people find it easier to use these words. its more simple than finding out who they really are. instead of investigating their personality, they short-cut and assume they are goth, punk, raver, whatever.

i hate these words even being used to describe fashon. It seems limiting to label what you wear like that. some may think "these pants are goth. i can't wear my candy-raver light-up shoes with this!" you know? just wear what you like, fuck all the politics and labels.           The IsraTrance MySpace Group:
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rich
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Posted : Oct 4, 2005 17:52
I don't know how it is in the rest of the world, but where I live people who dress a certain way - goth, punk, emo, hippie are doing it to reflect the music and fashion they like. It's usually young people. They may change their fashion and taste from one to another, but it all looks like they're just going through phases.

Once they're done with the fashions and start dressing 'normal' is when they've actually reached a maturity, formulated their own thoughts and opinions and become uniquie individuals.


s0ft
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Posted : Oct 4, 2005 18:09
rich, it is very similar here.

a further comment on the same subject: it seems silly to dress a certain way because of your musical tastes. i really dont see a point. its a way of advertising what kind of music you like.

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dE.Tonatik
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Posted : Oct 4, 2005 19:05
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On 2005-10-04 08:36, furthur wrote:
maybe the fact that the music is called psychedelic has something to do with it. to me, psychedelia is not necessarily related to substances, but you have to agree that to most ppl, it is.






psychedelia----> psychedelic phenomenon



clown
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Posted : Oct 5, 2005 00:16
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On 2005-10-04 08:03, h2so4 wrote:
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On 2005-10-04 07:32, Gopendra wrote:
in the begining of rave scene at 90 media was presenting a new fashion stream with nice words...now dance festivals are presented by media as drug shows,or satanic rituals...rockwave festivals are presenting as a place were the wild youth listen their favourite music,and I never heard anything of negetive comments about those gatherings from media,maybe they criticize marlyn manson but the rock crowd is ok...Drugs are everywhere ,even rock,heavy metal,gothic...not only in our scene...
I dont want to compare trance with black metal...
I have the idea that trancers seem "too much"as an open minded culture and too much as a big worldwide crowd,for the most of "ordinary"people...
we are fastforward the future and so all the other eat our cosmic dust in space and time...

I have the idea that we have a concpiracy from the athourities against our tribe...I hope that this is only a scizophrenic thought from me and nothing more.
sorry for that naive topic but that is a hard truth
maybe my profile gives them a lot to say...but it is not only me...



Are you reading too much of conspiracy theory books?


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maybe watching too much CNN or something.. hehehe..

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Psycosmo
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Posted : Oct 5, 2005 03:26
I dont think it is a secret that the government makes war on our tribe. They openly state that they are looking more effective ways to shut down raves, I doubt they would deny that they want to stop our culture. In fact it is so not secret that I think it is more appropriate to call it "policy" than to call it "conspiracy". Conspiracy implies secret, which the govt position is not.

But back to the original point, If you dont want people to call you a freak than dress and act like the majority and people wont call you that anymore. I think I explained this very well in my previous post. but nobody responded. *sigh*
Gopendragon
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Posted : Oct 5, 2005 16:40
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On 2005-10-04 14:45, 14-year old e-tard wrote:
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On 2005-10-04 07:32, Gopendra wrote:
in the begining of rave scene at 90 media was presenting a new fashion stream with nice words...now dance festivals are presented by media as drug shows,or satanic rituals...rockwave festivals are presenting as a place were the wild youth listen their favourite music,and I never heard anything of negetive comments about those gatherings from media...


You haven't been checking then. When the army took over the goverment in Greece, anyone with long hair that was listening to Black Sabbath, would get arrested not only if they were at a bar, or a gig, but when they would simply walk down the street! People were fleeing from their own country not because people would simply look at them weird when they were walking down the street, but because they got the sh*t kicked out of them for being "different" and actually spend time in jail for it. Other people have had it ruff as well, much harder than you mate.

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On 2005-10-04 07:32, Gopendra wrote:
I have the idea that trancers seem "too much"as an open minded culture and too much as a big worldwide crowd,for the most of "ordinary"people...
we are fastforward the future and so all the other eat our cosmic dust in space and time...

I have the idea that we have a concpiracy from the athourities against our tribe...


"We this, We that"..."Our tribe"...sorry mate but the idea you have seems like a lot of pretentious bullsh*t. What has "your tribe" to show that makes it any better than "normal people"? It's all subjective and the way you personally view things.
Appearances are trivial, it is what is inside that counts.




welcome back hippie,it have been long time to have an argue with you hehe!!!
you seem to be so negetive to be a member of our worldwide tribe and always be so "normal".Maybe you havent got any broblem till now from the "ordinary" people against you because of your trance style(if it is your style) and the reason is maybe that you afraid to show them that you like psychedelic and you hide from them...
what you have to say about the police brutallity wich happens so often in our scene around the world?that you are not a member of the tribe?
sorry but you are so poor and weak and you feel shy for the music you like...
personnally every day in my job and general in the society I live, I have to defend people like you and other "normal"because yes I like trance culture and always show them that "we" are not "punks" and we have values wich are so respectable and full of love emotions and that "we" are as much human and "normal as they like to be.
Some times I became antisocial because the system in the way it works makes me to be and act like an anarchist...because I am trying not to follow their matrix...           ~~~~~~~namaskar~~~~~~~~~
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14-year old e-tard
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Posted : Oct 5, 2005 17:13
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On 2005-10-05 16:40, Gopendra wrote:
welcome back hippie,it have been long time to have an argue with you hehe!!!
you seem to be so negetive to be a member of our worldwide tribe and always be so "normal".Maybe you havent got any broblem till now from the "ordinary" people against you because of your trance style(if it is your style) and the reason is maybe that you afraid to show them that you like psychedelic and you hide from them...
what you have to say about the police brutallity wich happens so often in our scene around the world?that you are not a member of the tribe?
sorry but you are so poor and weak and you feel shy for the music you like...
personnally every day in my job and general in the society I live, I have to defend people like you and other "normal"because yes I like trance culture and always show them that "we" are not "punks" and we have values wich are so respectable and full of love emotions and that "we" are as much human and "normal as they like to be.
Some times I became antisocial because the system in the way it works makes me to be and act like an anarchist...because I am trying not to follow their matrix...




Dude you are so right! I am so embarassed about liking psy-trance that I didn't even put my name on the trance tunes I co-released.
I am so weak and ashamed for my self. Thanks for defending me Gopendra, maybe you should run for president of "our tribe" and defend the true values of the scene that you so well grasp.

Why are you so insecure and afraid of normal things man? Do you think that wearing normal clothes to go to work, or even liking to wear a suit, means that you are not free to think or feel what you want inside?
You are in prison mate. You seem to only think that if you have a particular appearance sets you free, but you are caught up in confusion, having to act like an "anarchist".
You think anarchists care about their clothes man?
You are consumed in a never ending fight against the system. You are not smart enough to twist things to your direction and use the system to achieve your goals, whatever they may be.
But feel free to think what you want...ignorance is bliss.

P.S. Don't believe the stuff that happens in sci-fi movies. I'll let you in on a secret...it's all make believe.

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Pt.
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Posted : Oct 5, 2005 17:47
14-year old e-tard : Depends on what releases you have made.

science fiction

sci·ence fic·tion

Definitions:

fiction based on futuristic science: a form of fiction, usually set in the future, that deals with imaginary scientific and technological developments and contact with other worlds

sci·ence-fic·tionadj

--- science fiction isnt only make belive, it's a possibility.


Gopendragon
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Posted : Oct 5, 2005 18:03
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On 2005-10-05 17:13, 14-year old e-tard wrote:




Dude you are so right! I am so embarassed about liking psy-trance that I didn't even put my name on the trance tunes I co-released.
I am so weak and ashamed for my self. Thanks for defending me Gopendra, maybe you should run for president of "our tribe" and defend the true values of the scene that you so well grasp.

Why are you so insecure and afraid of normal things man? Do you think that wearing normal clothes to go to work, or even liking to wear a suit, means that you are not free to think or feel what you want inside?
You are in prison mate. You seem to only think that if you have a particular appearance sets you free, but you are caught up in confusion, having to act like an "anarchist".
You think anarchists care about their clothes man?
You are consumed in a never ending fight against the system. You are not smart enough to twist things to your direction and use the system to achieve your goals, whatever they may be.
But feel free to think what you want...ignorance is bliss.

P.S. Don't believe the stuff that happens in sci-fi movies. I'll let you in on a secret...it's all make believe.


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clothes are just a piece to cover the body,the black clothes that a priest wear for sure does not cover a holy person,but clothes is something like a mirror of the soul.Have you ever seen an anarchist under a suit?
peronally only if I get marry and in my funeral maybe wear I suit hehe
About the prison I am in you said ,the think is that I am in and anytime I want I could get out and then in again to tell you that we are all in a prison and there is a way to escape from the "normal" place out to more normal or paranaormal and see the view of freedom...what I have "inside" I am trying and not afraid to show you and get that out as you do...I am free to feel and do things wich I like or dont and not be traped under the bondages of "normal"...
It is you choice to wear suit and my choice not to wear...if you want to listen I fight the system from inside now,although I was fighting them from the outside in past for years maybe,we pass from many different stages and life circles wich we have to be trully and not afraid to show the inside out...sometimes we wear masks for a shield but generally be ourselves...           ~~~~~~~namaskar~~~~~~~~~
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Mushi


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Posted : Oct 5, 2005 21:42
Cause many of trance music fans

r into Xct yah its the love pill
lets do acid we need to see the lightlets smoke a joint its our ritual towards the music we hear Im trippin yah waving my glowsticks see people Im trippin only becuase Im listening to trance music

the song title that Im listening to is Xct, lsd bla bla

and u said by yourself u light a joint as ritual so why can't hear the music sober man

and now u blame other people
many has taken advantage of trance music and made a straight connection to drugs with it as song titles as a ritual as having fun

thats why and they call them selves fans while they r just a bunch of druggies and can't enjoy the music without drugs and find the the trance parties the prefect spot to enjoy the drug effects with the light effects and the non stop music

beleive in the music dude and try to purify ur soul let dance be ur ritual to this music
and trust in trance

don't mix things up and give a bad image about it
if u have a drug problem don't relate to the music
Gopendragon
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Posted : Oct 5, 2005 22:31
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On 2005-10-05 21:42, Mushi wrote:
Cause many of trance music fans

r into Xct yah its the love pill
lets do acid we need to see the lightlets smoke a joint its our ritual towards the music we hear Im trippin yah waving my glowsticks see people Im trippin only becuase Im listening to trance music

the song title that Im listening to is Xct, lsd bla bla

and u said by yourself u light a joint as ritual so why can't hear the music sober man

and now u blame other people
many has taken advantage of trance music and made a straight connection to drugs with it as song titles as a ritual as having fun

thats why and they call them selves fans while they r just a bunch of druggies and can't enjoy the music without drugs and find the the trance parties the prefect spot to enjoy the drug effects with the light effects and the non stop music

beleive in the music dude and try to purify ur soul let dance be ur ritual to this music
and trust in trance

don't mix things up and give a bad image about it
if u have a drug problem don't relate to the music


my friend Mushi this topic is not for drugs or rituals,maybe you confused the topics...
but if drugs is the reason than why coops they dont fight their own selves,because coops selling and leting free all those big doses around the world, dont you think?
or you think that those people who seem "normal" wearing a suit are good people,ha those are the most dangerous from all,wake up before they shoot you from the back...
they even take money to let a party start full of drugs,so I dont think it is a good idea to preach against drugs ,we all know how much destructive are in society,please dont remind me my father each time he see my eyes red after a joint,I know more about you think about drug substances,and I have reached a state wich I could control them,because i have almost experienced all of them and I found the strength and the light from my saviour Jesus to leave them back.I ve got plenty of experience on that my Mushi friend and I have two years now that I am purufying body mind and soul,never too late...
we all pass from life circles,the think is not to stuck in one think forever ,and change things that could be destructive for us...
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Liquid-Vision


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Posted : Oct 6, 2005 07:41
alot of people are not accepting. thats their fucking problem, not mine
I love drugs(i dont have a drug problem), I love music(I dont have a music "problem) I like doing drugs when I'm listening to music

I dont think theirs an easy way to make people all of sudden become comftorable with culture which threaten their state of mind because they're such unstable/insecure people.
          We are all visitors to this time, this place. We are just passing through. Our purpose here is to observe, to learn, to grow, to love... and then we return home.
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Posted : Oct 6, 2005 09:16
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On 2005-10-04 18:09, s0ft wrote:
rich, it is very similar here.

a further comment on the same subject: it seems silly to dress a certain way because of your musical tastes. i really dont see a point. its a way of advertising what kind of music you like.

i bet you can tell, but i have strong opinions on this subject.




I don't personally think that its stupid to dress up according to what music you like. People, feel free to be naked if it in your mind reflects your way of life, doesn't bother me. People should be free to wear what ever clothes they want.
In my everyday life I cannot dress up like a Psy hippie just because of my work, its very unfortunate (no freedom), but still a fact. This doesn't stop me from listening to Psy or being part of the scene. Obviously I'm not telling trainees or customers that I went to a psychedelic trance gathering just because most of them wouldn't know what it is and ones that know probably would have negative opinions about it. On my own time I do what ever the heck i want, but still dress up pretty much normally. After all clothes don't mean much, what you have inside does.
Sometimes when I meet people at work I can't help thinking what they are missing just because they are prisoners of our life time and stereotyping, but then again, they are relatively content because they don't know about anything else. They are reluctant to open their eyes to another aspects of life.
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