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quitars on psy trance??

sungroup


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Posted : Dec 20, 2004 02:53
actualy guitars are very good in trance,there are a lot of blusting tracks with guitars
it's matter of taste           it's time to trance
slyman604
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Posted : Dec 20, 2004 13:35
yea i think its all in how it fits the track.
I love tim shudlt - ohm shiva. I cant really picture that melody with anything but guitar.
Tasos_NOtrea
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Posted : Dec 20, 2004 14:25
Well I don't like sampled guitar riffs playing at the samw tone all the time..I prefer atmospheric guitar tunes but recorded from instrument and not a cheap sample from computer...My guitar tastes coming from Tim Schouldt,Holeg Spies,MINO,SUN Project and many others!I don't like dry guitars full of distortion like chemical crews but more epic tunes!!
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AbsolutZero(D.V.M.)
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Posted : Dec 21, 2004 02:33
i have to agree with sungroup,
there are a lot of ppl that have come to our scene from metal and rock scene,so it's very normal to like guitars like the chemical crew
also other ppl like soft guitars with more quality like tasos says,

i like all of them           [b]osobuko/b]
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mubali
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Posted : Dec 21, 2004 02:57
I feel the guitar thing has been waaaaaaay overdone. When I first started listening to SUN Project, I thought it was a novel idea to include some old buttrock style guitar riffs in the tracks. I even liked some of Skazi's guitar tracks on the Storm album. But to me it seems that everyone used a very limited set of riffs in their stuff and suddenly, its like your watching some bad 80's hair band ressurecting themselves in the trance scene. I love Tim Schuldt's work and think that he at least attempted to use his guitar differently in most of his work. I love any guitar work that doesn't sound like guitar. I am not the biggest fan of most classical and acoustic guitar, so the more melodic stuff that has that style guitar isn't my particular cup of tea.

I've seen how crazy the crowd goes when an electric guitar is used in a track and I can't deny it's crowd pleasing ability... (See a particular Chappelle show episode for my perspective) However, sometimes things are done way to death and should be left in the grave.

Dark Soho.... wow those guys were indeed awesome for their innovation and their ability to tell an emotional story with their music. Their guitar tracks always stood out as being more than some old van halen riff updated with some psychedelic sounds, but for me the mood of their music told a better story than the guitars. A very gothic feel, and right up my alley.

So for me, I feel we should move on in relation to the fad of guitars in psytrance and find some other sounds that can be used.

On a slightly different note, Horns. Saxophone, trumpet, trombone, you know.... I think they can be done really well, and it can stand out in a track. I haven't heard very many tracks that feature horns in them, but there are a couple that stand out in my mind...

Penta - Come in (short little horn stabs, but very effective... The first time I heard it I jumped out of my chair saying... That's a saxophone!!!)

Also there is a track by I believe Frozen Ghost and the track is sooo funky with that little horn riff he's got going there... It always brings a smile to my face.

But I can see how horns can be overdone or done improperly... (I have tried a couple of times to put horns into one of my songs and it never worked.)

Basically, 1. If the producer can make it sound less like a guitar, then it's alright...
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Saylum
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Posted : Dec 21, 2004 19:27
Always! you can feel the vibes from the guitar, when the adrenaline rushes throught your vains, its just the best feeling you can get!

In my opinion electric guitars on trance is just another dimention...           Peace & Love!

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Posted : Dec 27, 2004 11:40
no no no more guitars!!!!:-)
Psygirl®
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Posted : Dec 27, 2004 14:24
A few weeks ago, I had a chance to see Mindelight's live act which featured a live guitar. I must say that I enjoyed it very much.
Psycraft uses guitars as well and I enjoy there music.
So, for me it really depends. I am not a huge fan of guitars, but if used wisely, it could sound nice.           Live for the journey, not the destination.
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Posted : Dec 27, 2004 15:31
Guitars may be good. But as a rule: the less the better. And please don´t use only one easy and overused riff like Alien Project - groovy.

I like Infected Mushroom - Blue Muppet.

In short: don´t use guitars.
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Jason (LyTe)
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Posted : Dec 27, 2004 15:50
being that I am a guitar player, and I've also recorded a couple of tracks with guitars, I must say this is entirely about taste. one can love guitar heavy trance, one can hate it.          "We Do Not Allways See Things As They Are. We See Things As We Are" -Ancient Chinese Proverb

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Shaqattack
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Posted : Dec 27, 2004 18:10
in my opinion...

GUITAR+PSY=

totally LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

peacE
Tundra
Hydraglyph

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Posted : Dec 27, 2004 22:15
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On 2004-12-21 02:57, mubali wrote:
I feel the guitar thing has been waaaaaaay overdone. When I first started listening to SUN Project, I thought it was a novel idea to include some old buttrock style guitar riffs in the tracks. I even liked some of Skazi's guitar tracks on the Storm album. But to me it seems that everyone used a very limited set of riffs in their stuff and suddenly, its like your watching some bad 80's hair band ressurecting themselves in the trance scene.





I couldn't agree more. It CAN work if it's done orginally. And keep it to a minimum because it loses it's impact if it's overdone. Sometimes DJ's play 80% guitar tracks and it just gets boring after a while.           A beer in the hand is worth 2 in the fridge
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GeZer

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Posted : Dec 28, 2004 00:15
i hate it
sounds so cheezy
though
the delta - as a child i could walk on the ceiling
&
tim schuldt - ohm shiva
both kick ass !!
that was the point that it should have stoped ... ha ha
im talking about electic guitars
acustics are alwys welcome
Manuser


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Posted : Dec 28, 2004 21:48
Well, yep a lot of artists wanted to sound cool adding guitars to their tracks (Skazi...), it became very "trendy" that's why i think there are eventually a few tracks who use guitar riffs right in their track...if you wanna hear a perfect use of the guitar, listen to SAIKO-POD - SILENT RUNNING, here a track with "useful" guitars and not to sound cool
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sungroup


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Posted : Dec 30, 2004 01:48
i don't think its matter of trendy man(Manuser),
its just matter of taste and protoculture use guitars so what           it's time to trance
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