| Author
|
Psy Trance Tutorials
|
routingwithin
IsraTrance Junior Member
Started Topics :
46
Posts :
204
Posted : Feb 18, 2014 09:34:20
|
Hi guys
Is there any psy-trance tutorial dvd's that you know of. Showing production from start to finish, even if its house or trance also?
|
|
|
hnd
Started Topics :
6
Posts :
34
Posted : Feb 18, 2014 11:01
|
|
I've never heard about a DVD with a tutorial. There's a lot of both free and paid tutorials online (I personally highly recommend Tom Cosm's stuff), so maybe you could simply download them and burn on a disc? |
|
|
|
Soma_Happiens
Started Topics :
9
Posts :
120
Posted : Feb 18, 2014 11:02
|
|
routingwithin
IsraTrance Junior Member
Started Topics :
46
Posts :
204
Posted : Feb 18, 2014 11:50
|
hehe,, not DVD then - just like the complete tutorial series, I really need to see how others build, eq, compress and maybe master you know. But proffesional guys that knows their shit..
Thank you for the replies so far i will check those out |
|
|
|
PsyTriYe
IsraTrance Junior Member
Started Topics :
10
Posts :
126
Posted : Feb 18, 2014 12:32
|
|
supergroover
IsraTrance Junior Member
Started Topics :
39
Posts :
1505
Posted : Feb 19, 2014 09:34
|
|
PsiloCybian
Mammal Footwork
Started Topics :
92
Posts :
557
Posted : Feb 19, 2014 09:41
|
|
routingwithin
IsraTrance Junior Member
Started Topics :
46
Posts :
204
Posted : Feb 19, 2014 11:10
|
Thanks for all the replies so far guys, my biggest issue is EQ, well actually- my only issue - knowing how much to cut away to get that soft sound.(and at the same time not taking away the life within the sound) My sounds are always so crass and in your face, where commercial track tend to be so soft, more in the background, blending so well that it becomes difficult to pin point every instrument...
I know cut @ 2K gives a softer sound, but you cant cut everything there. If I master EQ I will be well on my way, so.. any vids just showing EQ in action, to wrap my mind around it.
|
|
|
|
supergroover
IsraTrance Junior Member
Started Topics :
39
Posts :
1505
Posted : Feb 19, 2014 18:40
|
It is better to make the sounds different at the source. Maybe lower the filter cut off a bit, less distortion on the sound.
 soundcloud.com/supergroover |
|
|
|
Midnight Sun
ProtoDrive
Started Topics :
91
Posts :
529
Posted : Feb 19, 2014 21:13
|
If your issue is EQ I'll give you a good tip (Works great for me).
While mixing try to put everything at very low volumes, then start raising levels of every channel. When doing this, in every channel just pust the fader up until you feel aything unpleassant, just right there stop, then use EQ to boost frequencies you want to be more audible and that's it.
I know this is maybe a backwards technique from what I've heard from other producers but this really works for me, also this ended my headroom issue I used to have. now my mixes barely reach -4dB with lots of stuff 
Anyway you can still go the other way by pushing levels up and then cutting everything you don't want. Hope this helps.
ProtoDrive https://soundcloud.com/protodrive |
|
|
|
Fjantasma
Started Topics :
4
Posts :
53
Posted : Feb 19, 2014 21:31
|
|
PsyTriYe
IsraTrance Junior Member
Started Topics :
10
Posts :
126
Posted : Feb 19, 2014 23:27
|
i hated that one above me,remember that one... such awful demo songs they used,over n over n over till your like OKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! then end up snapping the disk...
|
|
|
|
smoker
IsraTrance Full Member
Started Topics :
115
Posts :
873
Posted : Feb 20, 2014 00:59
|
|
Ricciardo
IsraTrance Junior Member
Started Topics :
10
Posts :
188
Posted : Feb 20, 2014 01:03
|
Making music its like drawing or painting a surrealmism art picture...
there are no tutorials on creativity, even if you know how to apply tecniques doesnt really mean your final product will be any good...
in fact there are many people who actualy have good tecnique wich the final product its pure crap...
and the most anoying thing this days, is that even if musical market is completly saturated and no one is making real money (even the good producers) than why there is more and more people seeking new easy ways to archieve a certain product???
dont you guys understand that your product will not give you sales?? even if it as quality, even if it is released on a good label, it will not sell...
and music only is good, when someone have devotion and creativity to make things for it self, al the others are only the ones who pretend or try to be like the true artist, but they will never be a real ones...
|
|
|
|
frisbeehead
IsraTrance Junior Member
Started Topics :
10
Posts :
1352
Posted : Feb 20, 2014 01:12
|
i usually cut more then boost, but also keep the levels down.
use one main reverb on aux channel, with the sends, this will add a sense of space to the mix and a coherent space, since all instruments are sharing it (not exactly all, but you get the point). reverb is important!
if you set it up, within your mixer, some return channel with a reverb on it, you can solo it and send all channels there, then judge if something's to loud or not, you can also sidechain the reverb itself with the Kick, so the sensation of depth is also dancing with the music...
if your sounds are way to much in your face, it starts with your synths, go back... if a sound needs to much cutting to fit in, it's probably not the best choice atm, imo. but usually you need to shave off some lows, to leave space for low end, then maybe the highs, if your cymbals are getting to muddy or something, it's same thing as it was down there, high shelf filters can do miracles in there, not always a low pass needed, it's a bit to drastic and affects the sound way more, but many times it works to. if two sounds are hitting the exact same region of the spectrum, probably a good idea to alternate between them, in other words, not to play them at the same time. a good mix starts with a good arrangement.
I like cutting more then boosting, specially on the low end. because if you're boosting with a bell on 40Hz, unless you're using a very narrow Q, you'll raise two octaves or more, and that just creates mud, imo. better to take care of the offending frequencies, attenuate those you don't want so prominent, cut the very deep lows, highs - for example. this coupled with compression will give you more control. you can group tracks and then use very small boost, but I like the analogue kind of EQ more for that, and digital precise EQ for general mixing, I see this analogue EQ broad strokes as a finishing touch, to enhance the best of a group of sounds just a tiny bit - since you're treating a group of sounds, the result of processing them together is imo that it will sound more glued and cohesive.
if you check some EQs, the curves react differently if your boosting rather then cutting, a much narrower Q when your cutting. that, as a general rule, makes sense. and also, the higher you go, the widest, since when you're looking at the spectrum, it's not a linear thing. some octaves are much wider then the lower octaves, right? EQ accordingly, with this in mind. also a good tip to listen to other sounds and what your EQ of one sound is making to the others, rather then the sound itself. mix in context, not in solo, if you think you're getting used to how it sounds, lower all faders and start again tomorrow, relative volume is half of the work, if something only sounds good if it's as loud as the kick, you should probably compress it more or use some saturation, keeping the difference in volume. EQ also plays a part here, of course, you've cleared the way for what's best about that sound in others, and do the same for the others on this one, hopefully not much, because it starts with the arrangement, as I said. simple can sound great  cheers |
|
|
|
|
