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Posted : Feb 20, 2014 04:19
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On 2014-02-19 21:31, Fjantasma wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEjOdqZFvhY this one is good (not really psytrance though but they explain the basics of mixing in a simple way)
ty very much really nice video and give good tips
LOL - he didnt mean that........ he was just bieng polite
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Posted : Feb 20, 2014 10:32
Thanks guys, some good tips from everyone- will go muck about with a few stuff and see how it goes.
any EQ tut vids will still be welcome.
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Posted : Feb 20, 2014 13:16
yeah , there is by, http://music-production-videos.com/blog/psytrance-tutorial-video-course/ well thats from start to end , have to say great one ,helps you allot , but don't see it like the whole truth , you have to find after that your own way , to make your tunes ans arrangment unique . Sometimes i come back to some tutorials , but now sounds come and flowing round my ears ! this is one of many technics to produce ,
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Posted : Feb 20, 2014 13:18
dude for eq go to youtube and find the basic eq for instruments ! good luck
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Posted : Feb 20, 2014 14:15
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On 2014-02-20 13:18, B-recluse wrote:
dude for eq go to youtube and find the basic eq for instruments ! good luck
may have to zoom in, but i sometimes refer to this.... just coz it says guitar/strings , doesn't mean diff, same principles apply to distorted leads,pads
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Posted : Feb 20, 2014 15:02
With the muddiness areas in instruments, should you cut that out with say 3-6db on all instruments to achieve a better sound,
or does it mean that only 1 or 2 instruments should occupy that muddy part of the spectrum ??
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Posted : Feb 21, 2014 09:40
THis is a very corny video. Wow
However it did provide me with great advice, at the beginning I almost stopped it, but it grabbed me a bit after the first hour.
great advice, still abit corny
""While mixing try to put everything at very low volumes, then start raising levels of every channel. When doing this, in every channel just pust the fader up until you feel aything unpleassant, just right there stop, then use eq to boost frequencies you want to be more audible and that's it.""
This actually was my "I struck gold" - pushing the volume low yet audible, but not hearing the sound 100%. then boost with eq so it gets bright and beautiful. O yes
Thank you Midnight Sun
Next i am going to add another eq below the one that boosts, cut everything next to the boosted area, delete the top eq - so i can have subtractive rather than additive- and still maintain my eq curve, very exited thanks to all - for you're input
have a great weekend
PsyTriYe
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Posted : Feb 21, 2014 16:56
haha cheers for kinda agreeing wiv me lol... i hate it
Colour tone from Tritone digital is one Eq i think we all must have
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Posted : Feb 22, 2014 08:02
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With the muddiness areas in instruments, should you cut that out with say 3-6db on all instruments to achieve a better sound,
or does it mean that only 1 or 2 instruments should occupy that muddy part of the spectrum ??
for example the kick or bass does not need the boxinees hollow nastiness(mud) of points in 300-800,130-200 also can be rezonaty ... apply to each sound if needs, nasty rez of leads, even hat and perc samples can carry shite in 250hz and below which defiantly not needed for example...
when it comes to occupying,, thats why mentioned colour tone.. your best lead/baseline should have this.. seriously try it out...
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Posted : Feb 23, 2014 14:19
Thanks for the input guys . Really helpd out the past few days. Still another question came to . mind.
If you boost at 3khz by say 3db, using a paramatic eq. And then decrease the gain on the eq so the line is below 0db. Will it the still be additive or would it change to subtractive??
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Posted : Feb 23, 2014 17:17
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If you boost at 3khz by say 3db, using a paramatic eq. And then decrease the gain on the eq so the line is below 0db. Will it the still be additive or would it change to subtractive??
Well, check out what you said:
- first you add 3 dbs to 3kHz
- then you decrease the gain by, say, 3 dbs
So, even though you could obtain a similar result by using two shelfs lowering everything else by the 3 dbs, you'll be adding, and then reducing the overall gain.
However, additive synthesis isn't about boosting an EQ - I'd say that's still subtractive synthesis. Additive synthesis is regarding the sum of different sine waves together, not the filtering of frequencies (even if boosting).
Now, there isn't a right or wrong way of doing something; and the results will be slightly different if you do it your way of if you use shelfs. But that doesn't matter, whats really important is how it sounds, and how you like it.
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Posted : Feb 26, 2014 10:54
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Well, check out what you said:
- first you add 3 dbs to 3kHz
- then you decrease the gain by, say, 3 dbs
So, even though you could obtain a similar result by using two shelfs lowering everything else by the 3 dbs, you'll be adding, and then reducing the overall gain.
However, additive synthesis isn't about boosting an EQ - I'd say that's still subtractive synthesis. Additive synthesis is regarding the sum of different sine waves together, not the filtering of frequencies (even if boosting).
Now, there isn't a right or wrong way of doing something; and the results will be slightly different if you do it your way of if you use shelfs. But that doesn't matter, whats really important is how it sounds, and how you like it.
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I get it, thanks man. Came to another conclusion yesterday. My biggest problem the past few months was that I always found problems in the sounds, then I want to eq it, but i go so overboard that I eq out all the character of the sound, then, when one sound change I get this overall quality that the whole mix should sound less bright, a new standard that is wrong. so now i play the kick drum, woaw, too bright, and eq that. same with the bass leads hats. next thing i know that whole mix is messed up.
So new approach, keep eq subtle. dont cut out chunks of a certain bandwidth on any sound. consentrate on harmonizing the frequencies without eq, and only use eq to take away low end mud on leads. and it works out pretty well so far .
thank you everyone -
giving advise is always a struggle when it comes to music production, but i got it. well in a way
peace out
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Posted : Feb 26, 2014 19:46
So new approach... experiment with different ones...
eqs for different jobs....
some will add character (made for boosting/attunating)
Like i sed i highly recommend Colour tone
gota weak kick that a Normal eq aint doin it.. try a pultek type that uses clever shelves of boosting and subtracting at the same time creating warmer punch...
what some oldschool top notch get emu's of these, URS emulates some of these
That top one bieng the Neve emulation that engineers wank over
not just about surgical and you dont have to be stuck using parametric, use those for BasslinesKick, HP, LP, notching..
In conclusion , experiment to see whats good on what.. some one had to start somewhere in a lab im sure..
Mixing engineers wore aprons lol at one point
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Posted : Feb 26, 2014 23:15
practice your eq , and there re charts for every single instrument , and the recomended freqs ,in the beginning you cut allot but at the end you will do less drastic eq'ing train your ears to reconize freqs and it will be clear after a while .namaste
