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progressive psytrance style as Ranji, Fabio and moon, interactive noise
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Jugolovski
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Posted : Nov 10, 2013 19:06:39
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Hello people,
would like in this style as Ranji, Fabio and moon, interactive noise etc. .. produce. Can someone give me helpful tips.
Here is an example:
https://soundcloud.com/ranji/ranji-1vs-unseen-dimensions
It would be helpful tips for bass, lead and the stabs / synth
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Jugolovski
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Posted : Nov 10, 2013 19:08
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or tutorials if there is something to ...
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snowdogg
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Posted : Nov 10, 2013 20:57
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sorry for hijacking but does anyone know if Daniel Aminov has any solo or other projects going like ranji? |
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Jugolovski
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Posted : Nov 11, 2013 16:30
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Jugolovski
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Posted : Nov 11, 2013 16:31
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Fungophago
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Posted : Nov 11, 2013 16:42
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hm..., i'd suggest you put a track into your daw and analyse what they do.
if you are still a beginner i can just give you the advice to practice and play with your favourite synth. once you found out how the basic sounds work you can learn from listening to the tunes you like.
this minimal pluck/bleeb sound is very dominant in the track you posted.
you can get that in sylenth with a short filter envelope on a lowpassed/bandpassed saw with high resonance or if you use ableton there's a synth called collision that somehow does the same in tube mode...
the stabs are fm-sounds. look on youtube for a fm-stab tutorial there are several...
the rest is just a serious amount of cheese and a fat bassline 
hope this was helpful...
have a nice week
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Fungophago
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Posted : Nov 11, 2013 16:48
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ok, bass:
take a saw wave in the key of your kick.
route it to a low pass filter.
set an envelope to the filter.
tweak the decay and sustain until you like it. attack and release to 0 for the beginning.
amp envelope attack 0-10% decay 0 sustain 100% release 10-20%.
tweak the cutoff.
add an eq to the channel and remove some frets at the 500hz region - maybe not its a matter of taste...
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andro.bot
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Posted : Nov 11, 2013 20:51
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Please make something more creative than this kind of offbeat ohmpa "progressive" shit... |
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ThiagoNAKA
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Posted : Nov 14, 2013 17:53
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On 2013-11-11 20:51, andro.bot wrote:
Please make something more creative than this kind of offbeat ohmpa "progressive" shit...
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Humm... So I guess I really like shit... lol
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klippel
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Posted : Nov 14, 2013 19:06
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The Offbeat is not a problem. What plays on topof the beat in this genre today often is very generic. In the early 2000s this was different..
http://www.ektoplazm.com/free-music/stereofeld-frequenzwechsel
"I've always been a believer in musical repetition to draw in the listener and make the music hypnotic. Another thing I believe in is repetition." Alan Parsons |
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nixcept
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Posted : Jan 13, 2014 21:19
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Im with this topic poster, i fucking love this offbeat trance, it is very fresh and is taking trance in a fresh direction...
if there is any more help on how to produce this style please could you help!!
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knocz
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Posted : Jan 13, 2014 21:46
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On 2014-01-13 21:19, nixcept wrote:
Im with this topic poster, i fucking love this offbeat trance, it is very fresh and is taking trance in a fresh direction...
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Hmm sorry but where have you been for the past 15 years? IMO this has been done, redone and overdone over the years.
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if there is any more help on how to produce this style please could you help!!
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Yeah! It's pretty much the same as producing any other type of psytrance, but you place the note on the offbeat. Also, a K BBK BB bass would work, placing some swing.. even a KB BKB B for that matter too (but I really dislike this last one, it feels as if there is a hole in the beat).
Regarding the remaining sounds, they are just simple blips and stabs, with some attention to the amp envelope, and most longer ones have some filter frequency automation / modulation. They are definitely too many to explain here, but across this forum you'll find the answers to what you need. I say learn sound synthesis, learn how to manipulate a synth to make it generate what you want, and this type of stuff will be easy.
Regarding the mix, again it's not hard, just set your mind to it. Certainly your first mixes wont even sound close to this, as this track sounds really crystalline and polished (and perhaps mastered..), but every time you make something new, if you learn from your mistakes and try to do better, each new time will be better and better.
And btw, off topic but useful nonetheless, you have everything you need to produce this types of tracks with your standard DAW and build in tools -> no need to download all the VST's to get there: learn the tools in order to know how to use them. Super Banana Sauce http://www.soundcloud.com/knocz |
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Fakso
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Posted : Jan 13, 2014 23:44
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sample packs and presets
(vengance FX sounds are common, have stopped listening to this music for over half a year now thou, it became boring)
With the bass you have to do your own, low cutoffs will privde powerful basses when you open them up with the filter env/mod env
that said, don't open up the filter to much via envelope, get a slight opened filter, but then (and this is fucking important besides maybe some layering)...distort it...the way you like, the sylenth 1 e.g inbuilt disto, can give you good sounds with low wet and amount values
for anything else, get presets change them a bit and play catchy melodies/chord progressions
I mean with time you get what is good sounding, in the beginning of a producer carrieer it ends in shit most of the time, but I don't think that they are slaverish too music theory it's more jazzy/fonkee and therefore breaks the common rules, like hit notes that are close together etc.
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supergroover
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Posted : Jan 14, 2014 08:43
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Layer your bass. Place different sound on top of eachother that are well equalized.
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ThiagoNAKA
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Posted : Jan 24, 2014 13:42
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On 2014-01-13 21:46, knocz wrote:
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On 2014-01-13 21:19, nixcept wrote:
Im with this topic poster, i fucking love this offbeat trance, it is very fresh and is taking trance in a fresh direction...
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Hmm sorry but where have you been for the past 15 years? IMO this has been done, redone and overdone over the years.
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I would say that it was done (like in 98-00, with minimal and progressive acts), there was a little inspiration with Spin Twist before the boom with both Spin Twist and IONO.
So, it was done and redone. Not overdone imho.
For tips:
1. Choose between 1/8 or 1/16 bass. Sometimes its nice to use 1/16 with longer envelopes, even if 1/8 sounds fatter.
2. Envelopes are important to make a dynamic one single note bass.
3. Layering can help. Make a solid and static low freq layer, and add little bit of mid/high freq layer with some modulation, or simple and carefull envelope work.
4. Kicks: for starters take the Bazzizm vst and youre ready to go. But learning how to sinthesize a kick from a single sine wave is very important for the future.
4. Use of hats: its important, for the swing, to place and chose the sounds. There´re lots of hats: clean, dirty, lush, washy, long, short. Learn how they sound together. Start with one hat at the kick beat, and another one (another sample) at the offbeat note. Change them and hear the difference.
5. Use of snares: I love snares. But, honestly, it´s easy to find a nice snare that fit the track. I like to make it splashy, recording a long reverb, distort it to the limit and layer with original. Compressor may be needed.
6. Sounds: you can start with simple one shots and arrange like there´s a lot of "question and answer". What I do, is to make a melody with different one shot sounds.
7. Mix: trial and error method works the best at the initial state. Some reading is very good, but learn by your ears first. Do not mind if your track is not as loud as your fav artist.
My 2 cents...
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