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Positive side of downloading; is there such a thing?
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rich
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Posted : Sep 20, 2005 18:31
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I think it should be made clear that downloading as a promotional tool ONLY WORKS if the download results in an eventual sale.
If the music is downloaded but the CD is NOT purchased later, the promotion failed.
So the question is, how many downloads actually result in a sale of that CD?
If the answer is small, then I think what the download is promoting is perhaps not the CD itself, but the artist and more specifically, the artist as performer. Say, he/she gets famous all over the d/l sites, even if they have only a few sales (or no sales, never released), but suddenly they're getting booked all over the world.
Curious if there's an example of any artists like that. |
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Shaqattack
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Posted : Sep 20, 2005 18:32
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well to be honest...everyone downloads!!!
i download...am sure quite a lot of other people do too..
am not only reffering to music..every software ever produced....
out of the whole population there must be jes .001% of the people only use all original software..
well times are changing people are coming to know the use of using the original software,buying original cds etc...THERE IS A DIFFERENCE!!
on the other hand there are a lot of people who do download stuff but then if they do like something that they have downloaded they do their civic duties by respecting the work of the creator and actually purchasing the original sotware or the original cd!!
when it comes to music... i mean how much can 1 person buy???there is soo much of music being produced if u want to hear new stuff u cant keep on buying it...u need another outlet!! so thus it ends up with people downloading it...and if peoples morals are in place people go ahead n provide remuneration to the producer in the form of purchasing original stuff!!
so i Dont think downloading is all bad if ur gonna go ahead n buy the original cds!!
think about it from the artists point of view??? i mean if someones downloading his/her music n goin ahead n purchasing their cd what is wrong with that!!
the flip side...in case a person downloads music n doenst like a particular album he wont go n buy it but atleast he has heard the artists creation n might have appriciated it but it mite not be his particular style.....
so what is the end objective of every artist...ONLY MONEY?? am sure not...money will be coming in even from live acts that they play... as long as the music is being heard..no??(well obviously money is also A criteria..i mean who woldnt want more money)
in fact the other day i saw a msg on dc++ which was a great move by some hub owner....his main jist was" please do not share psytrance/goa coz it is not fair to download this stuff as it does not have a mass appeal and the money received by ur favourite artist/label thru cd sales isnt enough to cover costs of producing the album so u will end up getting bad music..Support your favourite artists or be BANNED" (well thats jes a jist of it..will try pasting the full text when i see it the next time around)
the awareness is rising to be honest..it jes needs a lil more accesability and affordability(in terms of getting ur favourite albums or softwares at a store near you and also a little affordable.. )...if we wanna live in a piracy free world 
jes my 2 cents...
my main thought behind this post was kinda clear when i thought about it..but i dont think i have expressed it clear enough..
hope i have..
my first sentece is a lil provocative...there mite be a few people here who ahvent EVER downloaded anything ever...well hats off to u mates!! i am not as morally clean as you 
peacE!!!
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Lithium
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Posted : Sep 20, 2005 22:00
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i really think that this issue cannot be sumarized to mp3... because mp3 its just a small part of the downloading in the internet, and it is everyone´s fault this happens. more than judging if its right or wrong, and whether if one person downloads but also buy original, i think that the point here is that no artist can blame anyone for downloading their music in the internet instead of buying the album for 15 euros, when there are no artists that use all original software to produce their music (software that costs a lottttt more than 15 euros). for me this is the same as dj´s makin money using mp3, exactly the same.
and if we still want to go further this might happen because labels tend to pay the less as possible to artists for their tracks, not counting the labels that end up never paying for the tracks, and of course if artists don´t have money they use warazed software as regular users don´t have money to buy albuns and download them from the internet.
so this gets in some kind of snowball that goes round and round never finding its way out of it. labels want people to buy records but they pay shit to the artists incentivating them to buy warazed software. then artists using warazed software sell the tracks to the label and want people to pay for those tracks made with warazed sopftware. then labels complaint people do not buy their records and download it from the internet!!!
now who´s to blame in all this process? everyone has something to say but noone can say i´m clean on this...
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Lithium
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Posted : Sep 20, 2005 22:04
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just one more thing, about mp3 promoting the artists for me is like artists track's promoting steinberg and propelerheads and izotope and native instruments, and novation etc etc etc etc....
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Posted : Sep 20, 2005 22:25
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positive sides? without copying i wouldn't have gotten to know psytrance in the first place and it still serves me well to get to know music better before i buy it (and i'm buying a lot)
if people don't want to download that's cool with me, if people don't want to buy, that's also cool with me
live and let live |
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Ben P
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Posted : Sep 21, 2005 12:21
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i think the trance scan got bigger because of the mp3
it was much smaller before and i dont think the artist(most of theme) are doing more mony now then 8 years ago before the mp3.
some of the artist that complin about the mp3 without the mp3 days when the scan was smaller they wouldnt be even release anything! and many lables that now exisst wouldnt been at all.
I do think we should buy the music we love and go to partis! and i do buy a lot. i also download a lot. and i think many ppl do even ppl that are talking againts downloading. |
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psy^soldier
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Posted : Sep 21, 2005 12:35
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i agree ben p
and that the all hipocrecy of isratrance 90 % here i belive download i also download and also buy ectuly what i download i buy artist get free promo i dont think they buy alot |
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HandA
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Posted : Sep 21, 2005 12:40
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On 2005-09-21 12:21, Ben P wrote:
and i dont think the artist(most of theme) are doing more mony now then 8 years ago before the mp3. |
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Thats not at all true. It's very easy to calculate that if your on a compilation that sell 5-6000 copies you will earn much more money than being on a compilation these days that might sell 1000 copies if your lucky.
Even a 1st grade school child would be able to calculate that |
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Posted : Sep 21, 2005 13:44
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Positive side of downloading; is there such a thing?
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Sure! U don't need to pay for the music!
Why do u think people are downloading so much????
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Ben P
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Posted : Sep 21, 2005 13:52
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HandA i guess you know much more about artist lable stuff then i do
but there are much more audience now then ever more partys more more ppl copy music but also more sells i think so i guses that means more mony
im sure there are artist that hurt because of that and maybe you r one of them but there many artist that making a lot of mony form this situation. |
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