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PLUR, just words or deeper concept?

Pt.
IsraTrance Senior Member

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Posted : Feb 22, 2006 16:55
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On 2006-02-22 16:30, Run Lola wrote:
well, i was naive to enough to belive that trancers have a disctinctive sence of PLUR and stand out from the others, but it took me a while to realise that it s not always the case. Many discussions with psy trancers led me to the conclusion that some people use the PLUR out of habit or branding. But do not apply it.
the question is not whether you believe in it, but whether you actually apply it in your interaction with people.



Spot on!
Acidhive
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Posted : Feb 22, 2006 17:06
PLUR doesn't mean anything to me. I'm in this scene for the music and nothing but the music.           "Subconscious unravels at the point of death, and all time it has known erupts into a moment. As death extinguishes us, so we become it."

[Esoteric: Subconscious Dissolution Into The Continuum]
Pt.
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Posted : Feb 22, 2006 17:15
... *shocked* - So your a fake psytancer ey? hehe
14-year old e-tard
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Posted : Feb 22, 2006 17:52
"PLUR" is dead.
"Killargh" is the new attitude.           Me>You
Acidhive
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Posted : Feb 22, 2006 19:02
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On 2006-02-22 17:52, 14-year old e-tard wrote:
"PLUR" is dead.
"Killargh" is the new attitude.




Nope. Not to me. The music is all that counts for me. No PLUR, no Killarghhh and especially not the "single layer thinking" that's so common in this scene.           "Subconscious unravels at the point of death, and all time it has known erupts into a moment. As death extinguishes us, so we become it."

[Esoteric: Subconscious Dissolution Into The Continuum]
volvox box
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Posted : Feb 22, 2006 19:03
within the years i saw
plur people. killargh people, gay people, bad people, boring people, ugly people, preety people, juniors, seniors, grandpas and grandmas, enlightened people, ape people, dumb people, drunk people, drugged people, dead people and all kind and shapes and sizes and qualities of people
one thing i never saw is Santa Claus
How come the creator of the universe never been on a trance party?
Seems psytrance is not spiritual at all.           http://www.insected.com
http://www.shkart.com
Colin OOOD
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Posted : Feb 22, 2006 22:14
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On 2006-02-22 13:23, Marquis wrote:
(would personaly rather use "acceptance" than "tolerance" )



Absolutely! You're the first person I've seen that has also picked up on this. "Tolerance" means "I think what you're doing is wrong but I'm going to let you carry on doing it"; "acceptance" means "what you're doing is right for you so I have no right to even think about stopping you doing it" - there's a very significant difference between the two. If we accept each other's differences, rather than just tolerate them, EVERYthing becomes so much easier.

And really, since when did we give ourselves the right to tell others how to live their lives?           Mastering - http://mastering.OOOD.net :: www.is.gd/mastering
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shamanizer


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Posted : Feb 23, 2006 10:24
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On 2006-02-23 01:59, Voxmulox wrote:

what do u do with PLUR when u r at a party? do u really think about the people around u...i dont i just go dance my ass off and come back home...save the drama for ur mamma !
why think so much about the outside world be at true to urself and everything will be okay...dont be a flake and pretend to understand and respect things u have no idea about...nor bother finding peace for someone else until u have found it for urself...as far as love goes...its just another emotion
..The fact that u can love also means that u can hate.......go get smashed be obnoxious, puke on somebody face, spill ur drink on the dancefloor...passout next to the speaker..that makes a party memorable for others...




I can't really agree with you. I, for example, do think about other people when i'm in a party. I wish more people would do so too. There are different kinds of people in parties, some give positive vibes and some don't.
What's the drama in thinking about others and not only your own ass? I'm sure people will remember things you described above, but most likely in negative way. Those things are exactly the reasons why I don't go to clubs in Finland and many other place. Its of utmost importance to think about people around you, opinions like yours lead only to negative things. If you don't understand that you better stay at home, there you can be just as obnoxious as you want without bothering other people.
The Green Channel
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Posted : Feb 23, 2006 12:29
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On 2006-02-22 22:14, Colin OOOD wrote:
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On 2006-02-22 13:23, Marquis wrote:
(would personaly rather use "acceptance" than "tolerance" )



Absolutely! You're the first person I've seen that has also picked up on this. "Tolerance" means "I think what you're doing is wrong but I'm going to let you carry on doing it"; "acceptance" means "what you're doing is right for you so I have no right to even think about stopping you doing it" - there's a very significant difference between the two. If we accept each other's differences, rather than just tolerate them, EVERYthing becomes so much easier.

And really, since when did we give ourselves the right to tell others how to live their lives?



I disagree; tolerance should be practiced in numerous instances.

“The capacity for or the practice of recognizing and respecting the beliefs or practices of others”, http://dictionary.reference.com/. (Tolerance)

The Dali Lama once said; the cure for anger and hatred is patience and tolerance, I fully support this statement.

          "Love is a way of life"

(Gaia, Love, Nature, Shamanism (.2A.y.0a.hu.1a.sc.2a.), Terence McKenna)
Pt.
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Posted : Feb 23, 2006 12:42
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Definitions of tolerance:

1. acceptance of different views: the acceptance of the differing views of other people, e.g. in religious or political matters, and fairness toward the people who hold these different views


2. tolerating of somebody or something: the act of putting up with somebody or something irritating or otherwise unpleasant


3. ability to endure hardship: the ability to put up with harsh or difficult conditions


4. medicine ability to remain unaffected: the loss of or reduction in the usual response to a drug or other agent as a result of use or exposure over a prolonged period


5. engineering allowance made for deviation: an allowance made for something to deviate in size from a standard, or the limit within which it is allowed to deviate


6.biology ability to withstand extremes: the ability of an organism to survive in extreme conditions


www.onelook.com

Pavel
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Posted : Feb 23, 2006 14:14
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On 2006-02-22 17:06, Acidhive wrote:
PLUR doesn't mean anything to me. I'm in this scene for the music and nothing but the music.




Same here           Everyone in the world is doing something without me
Pt.
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Posted : Feb 23, 2006 14:17
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On 2006-02-23 14:14, Pavel wrote:
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On 2006-02-22 17:06, Acidhive wrote:
PLUR doesn't mean anything to me. I'm in this scene for the music and nothing but the music.




Same here




I'm here because of "you know what" and the music.
Pavel
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Posted : Feb 23, 2006 14:31
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On 2006-02-23 14:17, psytones wrote:
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On 2006-02-23 14:14, Pavel wrote:
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On 2006-02-22 17:06, Acidhive wrote:
PLUR doesn't mean anything to me. I'm in this scene for the music and nothing but the music.




Same here




I'm here because of "you know what" and the music.




Pork pies?           Everyone in the world is doing something without me
shamanizer


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Posted : Feb 23, 2006 14:33
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On 2006-02-23 14:14, Pavel wrote:
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On 2006-02-22 17:06, Acidhive wrote:
PLUR doesn't mean anything to me. I'm in this scene for the music and nothing but the music.




Same here




I think you're being a bit too straightforward in here. It doesn't necessarily need to have anything to do with the scene to have plur attitude. Surely you cannot say that those four words don't have any meaning to you. Maybe they don't have any meaning to you when talking about trance scene, but as a wider concept they surely make a difference. If not, I would be a bit worried...
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