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Jean-Louis
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Posted : Jul 19, 2002 21:43
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Now that Trancendance is gone, and almost every first class producers have been to Brazil at least once, what is the next step? I think we got into a new stage...wich way you think the trance scene will take from now on?
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Du Serena
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Posted : Jul 20, 2002 01:57
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Does this change anything ??? I dont think so .... It does not matter is all djs and artists already came to Brazil because their music is always changing, always new productions came up and the best part of it is that every time they came they are even better !  |
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Luiz Paulo
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Posted : Jul 20, 2002 02:04
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And you can hardly say that all artists and DJs came to Brazil.
From the Trancendence line-up the ones who hadn't been here ever were:
Vatos Locos (though Celli was here before)
Skazi (though he was "booked" for that shit Psypher)
maybe there is someone I forgot...
anyway, I believe we still have much room to grow. Our scene has very little exposure to Israeli sound for example amd fat german grooves...
Bom!
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Server Pimp
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Posted : Jul 20, 2002 03:00
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the trend is always better quality... hopefully for parties also 
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Jean-Louis
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Posted : Jul 20, 2002 05:44
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Hopefully some organizers will no longer stand only on a "First time in Brazil" line-up to promote their parties, as happend a few times.
I agree with you L.P., I think and I said before, the scene is at itīs early stages.
Anyway my point is, that ppl (organizers)here should see that the stage where anything was ok, is gone. We should take the directions of making greater productions.
I donīt think that just offering a novelty is not enough. 
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Mau (Trippy)
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Posted : Jul 20, 2002 20:14
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Sorry, but I donīt think that all the "first class producers" have already been to Brazil.
Thereīs plenty of talented people still to come. Son Kite, Ticon, Antix, just to name a few. The brazilian so-called "scene" may have grown, but itīs far from its maturity.
From now on, I really hope that people start to demand more quality, instead of quantity. If that happens, I think that weīre on the right path. |
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Setherial Sourcerer
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Posted : Jul 21, 2002 05:56
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Well, unfortunently, I think it will take a long time to see really quality parties here, with "PRO" kick ass line ups and infra's.
Im sick of low budget, low quality "free cache Djs" partie's around.........disgusting!
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Jean-Louis
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Posted : Jul 21, 2002 09:01
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On 2002-07-20 20:14, Mau (Trippy) wrote:
Sorry, but I donīt think that all the "first class producers" have already been to Brazil.
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Neither do I pal, thatīs why i wrote "ALMOST"
And Seth, I agree with you, some parties around just make me sick! But seems that weīre in vicious circle, because bigger budget can only be achieved with more ppl on the parties, or with a sponsorship. But that brings up again the discussion on comercialism, and public at the dance floor who are not at all into trance...It looks like this will never end!
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Luiz Paulo
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Posted : Jul 22, 2002 03:25
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I don't think that better quality means bigger budgets (not always at least).
Come on, seriously, many party organizers are just plain incompetent. I believe that somehow things are starting to get better, as ppl start to realize what quality really means.
I for one don't go out that much anymore, just because I'm sick and tired of being treated to a shitty party. One last thing, I wanna see some criticism being thrown around, 'cause most party reviews I see are always "ah the vibe was so beautiful"...
And just to add to what Mau said: folks like Mark Allen (one of the BEST psy DJs in the world), BLT (booking Yuli, anyone?) are two I'd love to see here in good old Brazil.
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Du Serena
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Posted : Jul 22, 2002 11:01
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I guess most of the famous full on artists already came to Brazil .... For sure, there is a lot's of prog. artists that didnt came yet because progressive is too small our country. Even now that more people like it, it still a small part of what people like.
I also like progressive, I think the two stiles, prog and full on must be played in a party, otherwise it gets boring .... it really nice to dance full on for ours and in the middle of the afternoon, when you're a bit tired, you start to hear a slower bit .......
About the party quality
! What can I say
. There is a hole bunch of shitty parties. I mean , REALLY SHITTY !!!! And people still like it ?!?!?!?! What is going on ???? No sense of quality !
I agree with you Luis
.. this shit makes me sick !
I believe that will change. The people that are in the scene for a longer time is becoming more professional, and as long this keep on going, more nice parties will be made, and the people who makes those bad shitty parties will disappear because the crowd will start to realize what are the good and the bad parties and for sure they will follow the GOOD ones.
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Zombi
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Posted : Jul 22, 2002 12:01
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litlle correction to luiz friend words - mark allen is a best ever/forever 
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Setherial Sourcerer
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Posted : Jul 22, 2002 23:41
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I would like to see Vibrasphere and Midi Miliz/Spirallianz live hehe
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bumshit
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Posted : Jul 23, 2002 00:45
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i think thats three kind of parties in brazil
1 - the ones that people have many many money and know 4 - 5 top artists os the scene make a party with a almost killer line up(not forgeting to put their friends to play and people that they may need to kiis the ass in future) and make a terrible party with no deco a rock and roll concert stage no infra nothing... and still work on a terrible mood - like when i was entering in carrancas festival the same guy that just had put the wirst cord(PULSERA) in me 10 meters forward toke my arm like an idiot asking where was my wirst lace and if i had paid to enter the party... the pa was ''OFF''
they just fixed the sound 2 days after the fest started...
2 - that parties that people want a partie but dont hav a nice way to make and and get tpgheter with people and get the best equip they can and make a not QUALITY PRO LINE UP AND SOUND SYSTEM but make a nice party because we didnt need those full qualityt for all parties(me at least), for me this ones dont suck at least we have 30 djs asking to play their unrelesd gms and astrix tracks
3 - the others parties - like one party is one party ,,,no other can be the same ...
the medium point - the sound quality sometimes dj quality sometimes both some times but good parties, and the killers parties that s a few people here know very well how to make it
what is going to be now after trancendence
THE SAME BUT WITH MORE COPS AND FEDERAIS ARROUND
''when we still have people having HIPER PIRIPAQUES in the dance floor because of too many drugs they ll just get worse and worse.... just geting bette for the drug dealers''
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PLEASEE SOMEONE BRING MR PECULIAR HIS LIVE MUST BE THE BEST NIGHT FULL ON SET :KILLER:
OHH AND BIRNG COSMA AGAIN TOO I LOST IT LOL 
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Mau (Trippy)
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Posted : Jul 23, 2002 09:05
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...progressive is too small our country. Even now that more people like it, it still a small part of what people like.
.... it really nice to dance full on for ours and in the middle of the afternoon, when you're a bit tired, you start to hear a slower bit .......
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Donīt you think that this is a kind of prejudice? You know, I really like to play in the afternoon. The people who are still at the party at this time usually know the DJ who will play and what to expect from him, but I think that most people canīt stay until that time.
Leaving all the progressive to the middle of the afternoon can seriously reduce itsī audience. Some years ago, people here in Brazil didnīt like psy trance at all. When they got to know it better, they started to like it. If you restrict it to a few people, itīs going to take longer....
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About the party quality???! What can I say ?. There is a hole bunch of shitty parties. I mean , REALLY SHITTY !!!! And people still like it ?!?!?!?! What is going on ???? No sense of quality !
I agree with you Luis ?.. this shit makes me sick !
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Shit parties happen because of a BIG lack of information (or false information). Most of the sites that have their focus on psy trance here in Brazil usually just display the partyīs name, location, entrance fee and line up. After that, they display a bunch of "look at me at the rave" pictures, and thatīs it. "Rraurl" and "Rave On" are two of the few sites that have a real commitment to what they put online. There was a shitty party with a R$30,00 entrance fee? Ok, so people should know who did it, and the next time this person does a party, that should be published. The same is true when there was a killer party, which almost nobody went to. People should know that there was a good sound system, good djs, etc.
Itīs also about too many drugs. What do you expect from a 16 years old kid who took 3 pills and is far away from his parents? He will definitely like it!
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I believe that will change. The people that are in the scene for a longer time is becoming more professional, and as long this keep on going, more nice parties will be made, and the people who makes those bad shitty parties will disappear because the crowd will start to realize what are the good and the bad parties and for sure they will follow the GOOD ones.
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Sorry, but I have to disagree with you. The most recent example was Spectral Gate: killer line up, killer sound system and... not enough people. The guys have lost a good amount of money and probably wonīt do any parties in the near future. Most of the people here know almost nothing about what they are listening to. They used to listen to axé or some similar crap until 2 years ago, and now they are attending outdoor parties because itīs the "ultimate trend". Only time will make these people go away and look for another trend. Now, the question is: will there be enough people left? |
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Jean-Louis
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Posted : Jul 24, 2002 00:51
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Usualy progressive is played during most of the night, and at the afternoon, leaving sunrise and the morning to full on...As we all know this is the time the party is packed. I think most people prefer to arrive very late in the night exactly to listen to the sound they like the most, wich is full on. The public itself has restricted progressive to those times.
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The most recent example was Spectral Gate: killer line up, killer sound system and... not enough people. (...) Most of the people here know almost nothing about what they are listening to. They used to listen to axé or some similar crap until 2 years ago, and now they are attending outdoor parties because itīs the "ultimate trend".
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I didn't get you point. If it's the "ultimate trend", why there weren't enough people? Spectral gate had all the componets to atract a huge crowd, specialy those who are newcomers... |
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