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willsanquil
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Posted : Feb 11, 2013 20:49
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OzMike
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Posted : Feb 12, 2013 00:32
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A good friend of mine was at NAMM & had a quick play. He was very disappointed. He said it felt like a child's, easily breakable and very plastic. The keys were not fun to play, very small and no depth to them. The sound was great but he said you would be in his opinion better off to buy some proper modules that replicate the MS20. He did say the sub phatty was great in comparison for value for money. I'm definitely going to grab the sub phatty when it's out here in Australia as I love the moog sound & it's a step up from the Minitaur for sure and I want the Moog sound in my studio 
MS-20 mini holds no interest for me whatsoever. I wished they'd made it a bit more sturdier with better keys. I'd have easily paid another $200-300 for that alone.
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Nectarios
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Posted : Feb 12, 2013 10:35
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Some classic synths are plastic and felt like toys, Roland SH-101, TB-303, they did last for decades though. Time will tell how well the new MS-20 is built.
I can see why a skilled keyboard player would protest to the smaller keyboard, me I am not a skilled keyboard player and these keys will do just fine.
The sound and the programability are the most important things to me and from the looks and sounds of it, the new MS-20 ticks both boxes, at an extremely low price.
The SubPhatty is a great synth as well, although having a Slim Phatty and a Minitaur, I will not be buying it. One thing they have done is that they (apparently) dropped OSC2 as a mod source, and I rely heavily on that option for FX in my tunes. Having OSC2 modulate the VCF at self oscillation, then assign the LFO to cut-off for some rhythmic, MIDI synced patch (and then also feed that into the MF-102) to create retro sci-fi FX clangy/metallic sounds, is one of my favorite things about my Slim Phatty.
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PoM
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Posted : Feb 12, 2013 11:58
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yeah the lack of modulation and cv in/ out is really a turn off on the sub phatty.. best moog to get for me would be the slim.. or cover that sound in modular form, it will probably sound better than moog modern synths but cost more.
on the ms20 build quality if it don't break easily it s not much a problem for me that if it feel cheap (many analog do..) but let see when trying it.. |
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Nectarios
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Posted : Feb 12, 2013 12:20
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Well, the SubPhatty is still a great instrument. Its like a Moog SH-101, brand new, with full MIDI implementation, VCO phase re-trigger and a great sound. If I did not have the Slim Phatty and Minitaur, I would be all over the SubPhatty...even if it has not CV/Gate outputs...someone would be able to mod it if I wanted them desperately.
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woodster77
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Posted : Feb 12, 2013 12:25
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Some classic synths are plastic and felt like toys, Roland SH-101, TB-303, they did last for decades though. Time will tell how well the new MS-20 is built.
I can see why a skilled keyboard player would protest to the smaller keyboard, me I am not a skilled keyboard player and these keys will do just fine.
The sound and the programability are the most important things to me and from the looks and sounds of it, the new MS-20 ticks both boxes, at an extremely low price.
The SubPhatty is a great synth as well, although having a Slim Phatty and a Minitaur, I will not be buying it. One thing they have done is that they (apparently) dropped OSC2 as a mod source, and I rely heavily on that option for FX in my tunes. Having OSC2 modulate the VCF at self oscillation, then assign the LFO to cut-off for some rhythmic, MIDI synced patch (and then also feed that into the MF-102) to create retro sci-fi FX clangy/metallic sounds, is one of my favorite things about my Slim Phatty.
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not forgetting to wiggle the waveshape of osc2 for a bit more fun |
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Nectarios
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Posted : Feb 12, 2013 12:55
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Interested to hear a total of 6 VCOs into a resonant analog high pass filter and sweep the cut-off 
Might as well add the x0xb0x in and make the VCO count into 7.
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PoM
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Posted : Feb 12, 2013 17:41
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about the sub ,they will make a rack version and probably one with cv i/o later |
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Nectarios
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Posted : Feb 12, 2013 17:46
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about the sub ,they will make a rack version and probably one with cv i/o later
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Yup, nobody does a better job at pissing people off like that, than Moog.
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PoM
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Posted : Feb 12, 2013 17:56
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not sure but have read it from the guy who make moog presentation ,if i remember he said rack will come and cvs out they are thinking to it..
at one point if the sub dont sell much anymore..would not be suprised these version appear..
they milk the cow since the minimoog days..lol |
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willsanquil
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Posted : Feb 12, 2013 18:15
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PoM
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Posted : Feb 12, 2013 18:18
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that ms 20 gonna hurt moog sell |
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Nectarios
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Posted : Feb 12, 2013 19:01
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On 2013-02-12 18:15, willsanquil wrote:
would prefer a korg ms-20 rack version too
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That would be something I could get down with.
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Saw off the keyboard innit
But as Will said, at that price I can use the keyboard as an ashtray and incense table, enough space to leave my phone on there as well...
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Junk Rhythm
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Posted : Feb 12, 2013 19:05
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On 2013-02-12 18:43, Junk Rhythm wrote:
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On 2013-02-12 18:15, willsanquil wrote:
would prefer a korg ms-20 rack version too
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That would be something I could get down with.
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Saw off the keyboard innit
But as Will said, at that price I can use the keyboard as an ashtray and incense table, enough space to leave my phone on there as well...
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I guess I could always re-panel it if I want it in a rack that bad.
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