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VertigOA
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Posted : May 12, 2005 06:17
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I'd like to know what psytrance labels are working with these servies or similar services.
We've all known CD are becoming about as useless as cassettes, and downlaoding being the future. Search my posts.
I've talked about this in the past and people laughed at me, saying "education" is the solution. You are obviously not too business savvy if you believe this. I have said that people who 'adapt' to downloading will succeed.
Guess what? Laugh all you want, I am being proven correct. Read this post I made:
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In the future you will be able to download CD quality music in seconds. Thats it.
Aside from the fact you can dload and print the covers yourself. Same goes for DVD's as well. - Internet connections will be faster , hard drives will be bigger, more people will have computers, this is how it will be.
So why doesnt the music industry suck it up and face this fact? In the future - A big artist might not even need a Professional million dollar studio to record in, or even distibution from a label. The way I see it, in the future, all an artist will need is someone with a lot of production skill, and a nice computer setup. Thats it. You will be able to distribute your music online, maybe charge for downloads at your website, but still that wont stop illegal trading. So how will the artist and production team make REAL money??? Touring. The feeling of Seeing an act live can not be replaced. - and I think all artist, big and small are going to have to face this fact, or stay out of the business and find some other work to do. The time has not come now , but it is coming soon - and people need to accept this rather than fight it. Record labels will become less necessary and IMO become unnecessary, tho they might want to try to hang on for whatever reason.
Record company executives dont need millions of dollars - Big Artists dont need millions of dollars. They are just used to it and scared it will go away. Thats why the RIAA fight so much.
How does this relate to the smaller trance artist? We all know they don't make a lot of money - but from a post I read earlier , there are somthing like 200+ labels? Everyone has a label. In the future this wont be necessary. Hell, trance artist produce ther own music so what do they need? Distribution? And guess what - they get PLENTY of distribution on the net without any of the labels help. So, when the day comes that we can dload CD quality music in seconds - why would an artist need a label? or 200+ to choose from? Like I said this day had not come yet, but it is coming. The record industry on all levels needs to prepare for this, not fight it, the fight is a losing battle. Artist will only need themself and a little help from firends in the future. Of course some more than others, but look at us now - talking from all over the world in an instant, spreading information instantly all over the world. You could not do this when record companies started. Now you can, and now its time to face the change.
Im not speaking bad of trance arttist or lables, I'm just being REALISTIC, so don't flame me. But I'm trying to understand the big fight. I think artist can continue to make money in this business.
http://forum.isratrance.com/viewtopic.php/topic/15378/forum/1
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You want to argue about keeping people from Dloading and buying CDs instead,, you are living a fantasy. Check it:
http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited/
http://www.napster.com/ntg.html
http://www.apple.com/itunes/
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VertigOA
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Posted : May 12, 2005 06:49
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Another post I made
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I will tell you one thing tho and I've said it before, CD are (soon to be) a thing of the past. If artists want to make money in this business they must embrace downloading services and lots of touring.
I work in porn and do you think DVD and VHS sales are where the real money is at? No fucking way, almost EVERYONE is downloading, even downloading DVDs. Thats why our industry is one step ahead of the game (unlike a lot of the music industry) and has already set up services a long time ago to offer downloads. Next thing is mobile. PEople wont need computers in the future to get media.
Im telling you. Downloading is the future and anyone blind to that fact will fail.
http://forum.isratrance.com/viewtopic.php/topic/59880/forum/1
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You wanna take wireless downloads as a joke too?
http://www.hifisoundconnection.com/Shop/Control/Product/fp/SFV/30046/vpid/1458711/vpcsid/0/rid/118099
P.S. I am not pulling this out of my ass, I know the future of digital media because I work with people who make the future of digital media.
Im sorry but my time of being hired for consulting has passed. 
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VertigOA
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Posted : May 12, 2005 08:28
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BTW I am talking about paying for dloads, not pirating.
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Posted : May 12, 2005 09:21
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There is one aspect you cannot get from this new platform of music distribution, VertigOA - the feeling of something tangible in your hands, something REAL that you actualy gave birth to. Something that is the physical embodyment of your musical inspiration: a CD/EP/Cassette that might be useless for customers, yet is like a baby in your arms.
Specially in trance, where incomes from sales has never been so high due to the size of the target crowd, making the doe is probably not the main issue. Its the feeling of satisfaction when seeing something that you've worked for so long being released, combining music, graphics and all the rest - you probably have to go through it to understand that its like having your own baby.
And what mother would exchange having a painful yet real birth over something virtual?
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Posted : May 12, 2005 10:53
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What a crap 
They want to commercialize the p2p scene 
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Dot Kite
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Posted : May 12, 2005 10:56
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Great!
there is e-music.com as well. 9.99$ for 60 tracks (if I am correct).
New digital distribution is one of the best invention of the last 4 years!
Go ahead...embrace it.....otherwise you risk to "die"....
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Spindrift
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Posted : May 12, 2005 11:29
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I remember many people saying that they will stick with vinyl as well...the large covers look better etc etc.
Funny how things do change even if people seem so conservative many times.
@helen
You can print your own CD's and get a printer for €100 that let you print on body print on your CD's.
So if you are a sucker for something tangible you can still have your pieces of plasic.
Not many people will be playing music from CD in the future though. Already now a lot of people use I-pods, computers and other means of plaing their music.
CD players will be about as common as having a vinyl player in the not to distant future.
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Dot Kite
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Posted : May 12, 2005 11:47
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On 2005-05-12 11:29, Spindrift wrote:
CD players will be about as common as having a vinyl player in the not to distant future.
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I agree on that...
There is a main reason why I don't like CDs (also If i still buy them). I don't like them, because every time that I have to move to another place...I need an extra lagguage to carry my music....!
Therefore for the last 2 years I have switched to the iPod solution....No space consuming, excellent sound quality....plus 40Gb of music....need something more?
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krelm
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Posted : May 12, 2005 13:50
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Lithium
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Posted : May 12, 2005 14:08
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i think the more time people tend not to understand this, the harder will be to convince people to pay for something thay have been getting for free for some years now.
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VertigOA
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Posted : May 12, 2005 14:16
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That is really cool
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Posted : May 12, 2005 14:22
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On 2005-05-12 10:53, EYB wrote:
What a crap
They want to commercialize the p2p scene
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Spindrift
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Posted : May 12, 2005 14:36
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You forgot www.resonantearth.com
Ok...sorry for the self-promotion.
But without boosting I can say that I have the most options available, so I guess it can be worth checking out if you have an interest in new ideas about music distibution.
You can create your own compilations on CDR and design your own cover for them online, and download 320k and FLAC as well.
I run resonantearth as a hobby for non-profit purposes, so when someone buy a track for $1 pretty much all of the money left after transaction fees goes to the artists pocket.
Otherwise how it works with download shops a label charge 50% for uploading the tracks to the server of a shop. The shop normally then take another 50% so that leaves 25% left for the artist.
A lot better than the deal with a CD, but IMO 75% for having someone upload and then host the music is still a bit exuberant.
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Posted : May 12, 2005 15:49
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Totally disagree. The p2p is not a 'scene', but an internet technology thats been around for a while and is freely available to anyone who wants it.
'They' (whoever) can do whatever they like with it.. |
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krelm
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Posted : May 12, 2005 16:23
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On 2005-05-12 15:49, mafkaroo wrote:
Totally disagree. The p2p is not a 'scene', but an internet technology thats been around for a while and is freely available to anyone who wants it.
'They' (whoever) can do whatever they like with it..
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Yes, but actually it goes even farther than your explanation. This issue doesn't even have much to do with p2p technology - all of the stores I mentioned above (and I believe most of the pay-for-digital sites currently out there) use direct downloads from their dedicated servers. There is no p2p technology involved in the distribution for the most part (aside from the legal version of Napster).
You might see p2p technology (mostly likely something based on bittorrent) be commercially used when you start to see legal movie download sites dealing with much larger (500+ MB) files. This will help distribute bandwidth and probably help with download speeds. But with smaller song files (only 10-100 MB depending on format), there is no need to use p2p technology.
And who cares if they wanted to use the technology for a commercial enterprise anyways? It's a solid and potentially useful technology, even if it is currently being used mostly for piracy nowadays.
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