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nobody_3
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Posted : Mar 11, 2004 10:06
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On 2004-03-11 09:55, helen wrote:
I agree with you EP, the production level of probably 99% of the parties in Israel doesn't scratch the most amaturish producers abroad. Deco is practically non-existant (I dont consider hanging a couple of backdrops and a few ultraglow threads a deco), Sound quality usualy sux (and tend to crash regularily), no backstage whatsoever (something that makes it very hard for the performers to organize themselves for the gig), no alternative music (chill areas for instance) and so on.
However, Israel have impacted the world with pure publicity of the trance culture. The sheer size of the scene is unknown and uncomparable to any other place in the world, specialy when comparing it to the general population in Israel. I think its our way of doing things 'on the fly' that creates this look and feel of a party. It's also the way we do other stuff, with our 'thing will work out in the end' or 'trust me...' ("yihie beseder..." and "smoch alay") that characterizes us as a nation.





I call it the Greek way (malaka way) infiltrating Israel LOL But I am sure it's been like this for a long time Maybe Greece got infiltrated by Israel?

I have numerous of odd incidents from my stay's in Israel where I found myself wondering why people do things the way they do I guess you need to stay there for a while to understand the "smoch alay" attitude...LOL No ofsense though. Just very "alien" to a Scandinavian
SHICHT
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Posted : Mar 11, 2004 17:14
I may be young , only 19 , but iv been already i taihland and thu the partys there have been AMAZING , there is nothing in the world that can be bigger then the israely karahana.
Only problem in israel in my opnion is that if u do a big rave there will be really bad ppl always.
And they tend 2 recycle the artist , im really tired of winter and psycho micro and all that .
If some1 will orgenize a party with good ppl and artist from around the world i will pay alot more money .
but when u do it big its become bad (not always!)

well thats what i have 2 say
and that israely are fuckin crazy ppl
ayahuasca


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Posted : Mar 11, 2004 17:40
Think it's hard to compair diffrent countries trance scenes, Israel tends to continue on the GOA/Psy way, while Scandinavia, which progress into more dark, more confusing music... I've got a theory there... I think its the dark mystical misty forrests fault... If you ever been on a forrestparty in Sweden you'll know what I mean, even if you not "stoned" you can get lost in the woods, only to listen to the music; take for example "bands" like Krumelur or Promon, their music is great but hard to understand at the first "glance"... But when you get out on a "woodstomp" it all make sense =) . Don't know the geografic sight over Israel but I believe you have mostly wide open areas, which might have something to do with your music... (Hmmm now I'm confusing myself actually, well I hope you know what I mean =) )           LIFE!!! A sexual transferable disease with 100% mortality!!!
Voice of All
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Posted : Mar 12, 2004 00:13
2 SHICHT: I think that problem with party people is actual for every country not only for Israel. Here in Russia we have many amazing artists from all aruound the world who came to us last and this year (there were Infected Mushroom, Astral Projection, GMS, Exaile, Alien Project, Tube, Paul Taylor, Dark Soho, Skazi, Logic Bomb, Kluster, Rinkadink and many more). So first times there was realy beautiful and friendly atmosphere, lot of good and positive people. But from time to time there were more and more people and popularity of such parties was rising higher and higher. The last party I have participating in was Event #2: Skazi visit (february this year). There were over 10.000 people and it was awful. Skazi was super, Parasense was super, there were also another russian djs and musicians and all music was great. But there was too cramped and almost no fresh air (air-conditions was planned not for 10.000). This 10.000 were any random people - far not only good and positive (all the more how can you stay positive in such conditions?). There were many drunk people and there were many police (this is russian constant problem. I now in other countries this problem exists as well, but here we have unexemple tyranny of goverment - I think somthing like in Israel in begining of 90th. There is special organization in russian administration - Drug Control, which is totally unconstitutional and thier first aim is the rave). But it is not the main problem - just one of them. Our party organisers think only about money. Every time when famous project comes to Russia it cause a problem with quantity of people. There is no limitation concerned with size of a rave place. If they can sell 50.000 tickets they will do and nothing stop them. It's only way to escape this situation is to stop visiting those parties, but it's all about most top and most wanted parties.
SHICHT
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Started Topics :  15
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Posted : Mar 12, 2004 03:12
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On 2004-03-12 00:13, Voice of All wrote:
2 SHICHT: I think that problem with party people is actual for every country not only for Israel. Here in Russia we have many amazing artists from all aruound the world who came to us last and this year (there were Infected Mushroom, Astral Projection, GMS, Exaile, Alien Project, Tube, Paul Taylor, Dark Soho, Skazi, Logic Bomb, Kluster, Rinkadink and many more). So first times there was realy beautiful and friendly atmosphere, lot of good and positive people. But from time to time there were more and more people and popularity of such parties was rising higher and higher. The last party I have participating in was Event #2: Skazi visit (february this year). There were over 10.000 people and it was awful. Skazi was super, Parasense was super, there were also another russian djs and musicians and all music was great. But there was too cramped and almost no fresh air (air-conditions was planned not for 10.000). This 10.000 were any random people - far not only good and positive (all the more how can you stay positive in such conditions?). There were many drunk people and there were many police (this is russian constant problem. I now in other countries this problem exists as well, but here we have unexemple tyranny of goverment - I think somthing like in Israel in begining of 90th. There is special organization in russian administration - Drug Control, which is totally unconstitutional and thier first aim is the rave). But it is not the main problem - just one of them. Our party organisers think only about money. Every time when famous project comes to Russia it cause a problem with quantity of people. There is no limitation concerned with size of a rave place. If they can sell 50.000 tickets they will do and nothing stop them. It's only way to escape this situation is to stop visiting those parties, but it's all about most top and most wanted parties.




I see....
Well , im sorry for you also.
The only place u can see tons of grate ppl and good music is in fastivals around the world.this is what i think atlist , thu i never been into one , but im young and my plans are big , like a europe fastival trip or something, anyway im really sliding here .
like voov in germany , or any other fastival, coz in those events ppl really come coz the music , the love of trance.
today alot of ppl that come 2 party come coz of the drugs , in israel thats what happend.
im not saying drugs are bad , i myself love acid very much , but i love more trance music.
and in israel many ppl come coz the drugs , in trance partys in the nature or something, there is not much police, im going 2 alot of trance partys in the past 2 years and iv been in only 2 partys that was closed by police....
so ppl come and smoke bongs and take e and acid and thats why they are comming....
so we now live on the small quallty partys . with the good ppl the good music and the good drugs.
sorry if i was miss understood now or something im really high now well thats it
so bye for now
tommorow im going to the kineret eze kef !

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