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Music downloading creates listener apathy

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Posted : Jan 11, 2006 12:38
Here's the source
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/01/10/060110164416.p4z0rnx6.html

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Internet downloading and MP3 players are creating a generation of people who do not seriously appreciate songs or musical performances, British researchers said.

"The accessibility of music has meant that it is taken for granted and does not require a deep emotional commitment once associated with music appreciation," said music psychologist Adrian North on Tuesday.



North led a team from the University of Leicester, central England, that monitored 346 people over two weeks to evaluate how they related to music.

They concluded that because of greater accessibility through mass media, music was nowadays seen more as a commodity that is produced, distributed and consumed like any other.

It could also account for the popularity of television talent competitions, particularly in Britain, which allow viewers from the "iPod generation" a rare chance to engage and appreciate music and live performances, they suggested.

"In the 19th century, music was seen as a highly valued treasure with fundamental and near-mystical powers of human communication," said North.

"The pace of technological change has accelerated further over the last 20 years or so and these fundamental changes in the nature of musical experience and value have arguably become even more pronounced.

"Because so much music of different styles and genres is now so widely available via portable MP3 players and the internet, it is arguable that people now actively use music in everyday listening contexts to a much greater extent than ever before.

"The degree of accessibility and choice has arguably led to a rather passive attitude towards music heard in everyday life.

"In short, our relationship to music in everyday life may well be complex and sophisticated, but it is not necessarily characterised by deep emotional investment."

The academic's assessment follows a warning last week from rock legend Pete Townshend, The Who guitarist, that listening to rock music on an MP3 player through headphones could cause deafness.



What say you?

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Nathan
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Posted : Jan 11, 2006 12:48
Most of the ppl today don't care about the artists. There are ppl that don't even give a shit about who wrote the music that they love to dance/listen to.
To most of the ppl music is just something on the side of the life for Interlaminate. Something that is taken for granted..

It's not the downloading, It's the people.

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Posted : Jan 11, 2006 13:14
"Monitored 346 people"

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Spindrift
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Posted : Jan 11, 2006 13:51
For sure we have inflation in all sorts of information and media, not only music.

It's more accessible, it's easier to produce and distribute and since there is less and less need for manual labor due to technological advancements information and entertainment becomes a more and more prominent part of the economy.

Personally though I doubt that the reson it seems like ther is a lot less vibrant new bands a genres nowadays is due to the accessablity of music.
To me it seems like the creative vibe is just somewhat in a low compared to previous couple of decades.
It easily feels like it's all done before and is hard to come across a groundbreaking style or fusion these days.

So people is simply less excited about the music being released nowadays because it is less exciting.
Why that is I don't know really, but it seem like there is waves of creativity globally and we happen to be in a low right now.           (``·.¸(``·.¸(``·.¸¸.·`´)¸.·`´)¸.·`´)
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Freeflow
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Posted : Jan 11, 2006 18:32
nolightatend, Spindrift - i agree
i guess a fusion of what you guys said is close to the truth!


And i wouldnt worry! if a song/tune/piece gets me, then it gets me!
i mean the song/tune/piece needs to connect/communicate with me for it to awake my emotions....

and not all tracks do that...

remember that pop music has played on our feelings for a long time, it isnt strange that we get numb!
if the input of the music isnt highly emotional then the output wont be it aswell...
formulas can work for ages, but its only the ones that
really touch us that lasts!

anyway listener apathy in psytrance is probably very usual...
and i guess we all know why we are getting pop!

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Posted : Jan 12, 2006 12:45
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Posted : Jan 12, 2006 15:38
I'd say it's true, at least to some extent.

From my own experience I can confirm, that when I download something I tend to listen to it very thoroughly and without special attention, mostly doing somethig else at the same time. Since I made a very minimal effort to get the music, I simply do not feel it's important and valuable to me - I can always delete it or download again.

With real CDs however, I know I've spent certain amount of money on it, have the real physical thing in my hands so I listen to it more often and in different way - mostly on headphones, just lying on my bed so I could concentrate on the music.

All this is also the result of quantities - I can easily download 1-2 albums every day, while I can only afford to buy 3-4 a month. So, with mp3 on agverage I have only half a day to listen to it, while with CDs it's one week!
Outolintu
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Posted : Jan 12, 2006 17:26
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The academic's assessment follows a warning last week from rock legend Pete Townshend, The Who guitarist, that listening to rock music on an MP3 player through headphones could cause deafness.



...and if you do the same with psy trance
it could cause impotence

hmmh... which one came first mp3 or numbness? numbness cause it's not just about
music listeners. people are shutting off their sences every where all the time because of the unhealthy environment we as a species have created.




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Acidhive
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Posted : Jan 12, 2006 18:58
I think it's bullshit. I download a lot of netreleases nowadays, which lie mostly in the ambient/drone and IDM scene. A lot of that music is very good, and some of these artists are making a step towards 'regular' labels. To me, all this downloading (netlabels offer their music free of charge) has a positive effect on my musictaste and which music I'm willing to pay for. It helps me discover new artists and supporting them later via regular releases, if they release on a regular label. One example is Marsen Jules. You can download two of his albums via http://www.thinner.cc/releases.php?label=apl
Those releases: Lazy Sunday Funerals and Yara, are very good ambient releases IMO. They're different, and beautiful at the same time. His latest release was a regular release on City Centre Offices, and guess what? I bought that. And I wouldn't have bought it if I wouldn't have known about him via the netlabel.

Anyway, that's my view on this matter. There are a lot of good netlabels out there in the ambient/drone/IDM/techno market. Prime examples: Thinner, Autoplate, Webbed Hands, TZP Drone Company, Subsource etc. etc.

Music downloading doesn't have to mean you suddenly view music as something you can just get, nothing special. It's all in the listener people. YOU make music special, it's your interpretation of songs, your pleasure when listening etc. etc. If people don't lose sight of that everything will be ok.           "Subconscious unravels at the point of death, and all time it has known erupts into a moment. As death extinguishes us, so we become it."

[Esoteric: Subconscious Dissolution Into The Continuum]
robomarket
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Posted : Jan 12, 2006 20:03
Interesting and true. Just think about it. Before one discovers p2p programs they a new album once or twice in a month maybe which is appreciated, listened and listened and listened again. Since the discovery of p2p one will download so many albums that the enjoyment will be gone. The magic will be lost.
robomarket
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Posted : Jan 12, 2006 20:05
"You can download two of his albums via http://www.thinner.cc/releases.php?label=apl "

I love netlabels.
CRX(HSS Records)
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Posted : Jan 13, 2006 00:21
I agree.that's why everybody loves covers.because they r easy to remember
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Freeflow
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Posted : Jan 13, 2006 02:10
its something special about buying a Cd, Lp or whatever
you listen to the music in another way..

when you have payed for something you always give it lots of chances... probably because you have spent money on it, it need to be worth the pennies you spent on it... this is true for alot of things.

but this dosent take away the fact that there is music produced that is lacking something...and with that i mean, maybe not necessary lacking musically but lacking identity, soul, something thats unique.
The music industry have them self to blame to some degree.
formulatic music and high prices, all to make money...
so in a sense they get what they deserve...
but we need to be real careful so we dont draw everyone over the same line..

yesterday i bought "Creedence Clearwater Revival" doubble Cd... and im glad to support such music maybe not everybody is, but that is not relevant..
Anogenic
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Posted : Jan 13, 2006 07:40
I agree with the article...I've experienced this in my own relation to music.
Downloading is like going to McDonalds, cheap, quick, easy, and 30mins after you've finished your already craving for more!
Buying an album is like eating at the restaurant of your choice, it'll cost more, but it'll taste better and it'll keep you content for a while!           «They who dream by day are cognizant of many things which escape those who dream only by night.»
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