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nobody_3
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Posted : Feb 5, 2004 18:20
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On 2004-02-05 17:09, Yuli wrote:
Well smart mr. E I gave Tim Sensient some of my tracks, and since we live several flight hours one from another, I sent him these in mp3 format.
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I respect your opinion but is it tool much to ask for to have a better tone in your post? If you saw my post as a attack on Sensient then I am sorry.. It was never intended that way! And I was mostly replying to beru 777. No matter what you say and do I still believe that mp3 lack a lot from original files. Also even when it's shared between 2 artists 
It would be nice for a change to see a post from you Yuli where you dont start with your mr. E thing !
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beru777
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Posted : Feb 5, 2004 18:29
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On 2004-02-05 17:02, Elysium Project wrote:
Sorry mate but that does not make you a great DJ !
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I never wrote that. What I've written is that some hugely respected DJs, who are great artists and helped launch the techno scene 16 years ago, which in turn opened the doors for trance, are using MP3 today.
I respect you and your music, Kristian. But I also believe someone like Richie Hawtin knows what he is doing in this field way better than you, sorry.
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nobody_3
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Posted : Feb 5, 2004 18:36
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On 2004-02-05 18:29, beru777 wrote:
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On 2004-02-05 17:02, Elysium Project wrote:
Sorry mate but that does not make you a great DJ !
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I never wrote that. What I've written is that some hugely respected DJs, who are great artists and helped launch the techno scene 16 years ago, which in turn opened the doors for trance, are using MP3 today.
I respect you and your music, Kristian. But I also believe someone like Richie Hawtin knows what he is doing in this field way better than you, sorry.
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Agreed that Richie Hawtin (among many other pioneers) is very skilled and that he know what he does... That dosen't mean that mp3 is better It might just mean that he's willing to go on compormise with the sound and dont want to carry a heavy vinyl case anymore or to fiddle with CD's that many times get scratched
But just because a person have a big name does not mean he's always right!
People can keep on talking about mp3 as a good product (compared to vinyl and CD's).. But I'll at any time claim (with help from facts about compression technology) that mp3 will NEVER have a similar sound quality to the real deal.
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beru777
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Posted : Feb 5, 2004 19:14
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Agreed that Richie Hawtin (among many other pioneers) is very skilled and that he know what he does... That dosen't mean that mp3 is better
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Nobody says MP3 is better ! What I and others point out is that nobody has been able to hear the difference between 200kbps MP3s and WAVs in scientific tests (the people could definitely hear the difference when it came to 128k files though)...
What I'm saying is that MP3 is good enough for home & party use, just like CD is good enough. Don't forget that theoretically, CD is incapable of reproducing the subtleties of, say, a 303 ;-) ! Yet I don't see anyone working with analog tape in their studio !
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Anak
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Posted : Feb 5, 2004 19:20
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On 2004-02-05 15:40, beru777 wrote:
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On 2004-02-05 12:06, Mali wrote:
I don't think any serious dj would play mp3s.
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Then Richie Hawtin, John Acquaviva, DJ Hell, Coldcut, Kevin Saunderson, are not serious DJs ?
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these names loose their magic due to that fact. some of my technocratic friends really lost their love to them. ok, in this genre technique etc plays a much bigger role...but anyway...
i for myself would like to see technics TURNTABLES only in parties  even cdj's are unmagic for me (and i claim that a good techno dj on turntables got a magic aura somehow).
neither an offence to any cdj, nor to Philips' gr8 invention called cd
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beru777
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Posted : Feb 5, 2004 19:22
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On 2004-02-05 16:23, Surrender wrote:
i dont understand why people think anyone could be a dj, its not for everyone.
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Do you mean it's only for the richest ?
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simply as driving a car is not for everyone, you dont steal a car cause u need one, u dont steal music cause u need to play it.
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Same old, wrong analogy over and over ! When you steal a car from someone, that person doesn't have her car anymore. When you copy a CD, the other person still has the CD.
What nobody has yet been able to prove is the fact that MP3 sharing over P2P, which a very small minority of people does, hurts CD sales.
And then, there is nothing, absolutely nothing, that can be done against filesharing.
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Anak
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Posted : Feb 5, 2004 19:27
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"Do you mean it's only for the richest ?"
well i dont think that gadi was referring to this.
i agree with him. dj was once about technique. people learning for ages to do it...it was an art. well maybe it still is somewhere somehow, but today as i can see it being dj is more about having good music to play than playing good. cheers R.
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beru777
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Posted : Feb 5, 2004 19:37
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dj was once about technique.
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In my view, house/techno/trance DJing has never been about technique. Anybody can beatmatch two records. It has always been about good spirit, good music, and connecting to the crowd. Some of the most memorable parties I've been to were DATs all the way.
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Surrender
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Posted : Feb 5, 2004 19:44
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Anak, thanks for clearing my words, youre right i didnt mean its only for the rich, i meant more its only for the skilled.
and beru777 i dont agree that anyone can beatmatch, its a sad fact, but i see dj's at parties all the time who have no clue how to do so, or do not have a knowledge in set building, or development...
they do however have the latest unreleased killlllllllllllla and so it makes them a dj in their eyes... - sad.
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Surrender
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Posted : Feb 5, 2004 19:47
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even the DAT guys (who were good) knew what they were doing, cut at the tight times, and connected tracks which unfolded a story in their telling of a journey that is the set.
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Surrender
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Posted : Feb 5, 2004 19:49
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this topic is a bit problematic since we went into several subtopics.
lets not talk about the validity of mp3 since thats a seperate thing and we dont need to get into it here, i dont want to throw the original topic from its course.
"On the other hand, you have different fingers."
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Anak
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Posted : Feb 5, 2004 19:56
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sorry to step back to offtopica again, but one thing i still have to say.
beru, u say djing never was about technique, everyone can beatmatch. okay, so what i meant is, DJING IS ALSO NOT ABOUT BEATMATCH. check out some fabulous techno dj's on four turnies. they are creating entirely new tracks. with the sub of one disk, treble of another, mixing between them, playing short loops, scratching (scratching is fucking wicked in a good detroit techno set! check out older westbam mixes). i agree, most of that work wouldnt work in trance music, but u could do sooooo nice stuff with a bit creativity while mixing. cheers to all and the nears.
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beru777
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Posted : Feb 5, 2004 20:40
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Well there are great DJs that don't scratch or mix with 8 turntables. Great things can be done, true. On the other hand you can have a great technique, but if you play bad tunes and aren't able to make people dance then what ?
You're making my point, actually: DJing is not about technique !
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beru777
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Posted : Feb 5, 2004 20:43
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On 2004-02-05 19:47, Surrender wrote:
"even the DAT guys (who were good) knew what they were doing, cut at the tight times, and connected tracks which unfolded a story in their telling of a journey that is the set."
Don't you agree that what you describe is more about good feeling and good taste than technique ?
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PsYx
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Posted : Feb 5, 2004 20:59
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At least DAT has got superior sound quality... 
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