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Mixing Free Music?

Misha_
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Posted : Dec 19, 2007 14:16
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On 2007-12-17 14:38, a3k wrote:
for example in this release: http://forum.isratrance.com/va-no-comment-vol-1-free-promo-wav-320/
if you go to their site, it is explicit on the covers that they give you all the freedom to spin their tracks.

but 4 example in this release i don´t see anywhere that they give the right for the music to be played:

http://forum.isratrance.com/va-voice-of-sauron-soon-on-ultiva-records-out-now/

so my doubts are are both legal to play?

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we don`t wrote any licence,it`s a free release.some net labels specify,as you said,that is free to spin all tracks,we don`t specify that,but it`s free also.i don`t see reason to wrote licence for free net release.it means by default to spin them,cause they been given for free from artists and later given from label to download.           www.soundmute-recordings.com
Spindrift
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Posted : Dec 19, 2007 17:17
I think you should look at getting a license that you use for the releases.

Can I remix tracks I download from your releases, or can I take parts from them and use in my own tracks?
Can I press them on CD and release them for free, or maybe just charge for my printing costs, or can I even even sell them to make profit?
That's aspects that is not at all implied just because it's a free net release.

Also, if you specify a license it's reasonable for DJ or broadcasters to assume that it's safe to play your material. With no license they are probably right to assume it's ok, but then if for example their CD case or HD gets inspected at a gig and one of your artists happen registered with a royalty organisation you cannot claim "it was a free netrelease so I thought it was ok".
If you do specify a license it's yours and the artists responsibility to make sure it doesn't conflict with any agreements made with other parts.

It easy to create a license, just go to http://creativecommons.org/ and you can make one that fits your requirements.           (``·.¸(``·.¸(``·.¸¸.·`´)¸.·`´)¸.·`´)
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Basilisk
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Posted : Dec 21, 2007 07:04
Indeed, free music providers should look into licensing their work under the Creative Commons wherever possible. I try to encourage netlabels and artists to do this. Perhaps I shall prepare a guide of some kind...

I am curious about one thing. Has anyone actually had their CD case or HD inspected at a gig by a representative of a collections society/royalty organization?
Kane
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Posted : Dec 21, 2007 20:42
Yes, cops are looking for mycel tags, not drugs.           You believe in the users?
Yeah, sure. If I don't have a user, then who wrote me?
JamesBong
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Posted : Dec 22, 2007 21:02
That depends on the legislation of the country...Here in portugal, even with music you buy on Beatport per example, i think you would have problems if the police caught you in a party.....Its very hard to prove to them you actually bought the tracks....And our legislation is full of holes and out of date....

Portugal is not the place to spin anything but original cds right now....ASAE (a new government agency that controls ALL economic activities) is on a fucking witch-hunt...you aren´t even safe driving you car and listening to somefresh unreleases or a friend´s track, because they now actually search people´s cars especifically looking for recorded (not-original) cds.....Seems we are going back to the times before the 1974 revolution... really sad           https://www.facebook.com/SoundBitsProd
kin beat
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Posted : Dec 22, 2007 23:58
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On 2007-12-21 20:42, Kane wrote:
Yes, cops are looking for mycel tags, not drugs.



Mycel is way more dangerous than Tony Montana himself
I m glad i live in a country like MExico, when even when I do buy my music in aprox 90% of what I Spin, i dont have to worry about having a cop coming to me to ask me what m I playing? there is just way more things we should be worrying about than worrying about a cop arresting you for playing copies of you digital files or albums, just can't stop laughing....
PS:thanx god I get a beatport bill send to my e mail after each purchase ....
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Zero-Blade
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Posted : Dec 23, 2007 16:10
Hah, I don't think that cops will ever worry about checking if djs on trance parties have original music.

They're busy with f*cking up our parties...
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a3k
IsraTrance Team

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Posted : Jan 4, 2008 14:31
Quote:

On 2007-12-22 21:02, JamesBong wrote:
That depends on the legislation of the country...Here in portugal, even with music you buy on Beatport per example, i think you would have problems if the police caught you in a party.....Its very hard to prove to them you actually bought the tracks....And our legislation is full of holes and out of date....

Portugal is not the place to spin anything but original cds right now....ASAE (a new government agency that controls ALL economic activities) is on a fucking witch-hunt...you aren´t even safe driving you car and listening to somefresh unreleases or a friend´s track, because they now actually search people´s cars especifically looking for recorded (not-original) cds.....Seems we are going back to the times before the 1974 revolution... really sad



james bong i have searched the site of asae, and i have seen this:

Using non original cd´s in particular cars:having appeard several doubts in using non original cd´s in particaular cars the ASAE informs:

1. The Code of the rights of the author and of the conexe rights allows some situations of free use, and some are in the art. 189º,which is refered that the private use is allowed.

2. So, it is not forbidden the copy or the reproduction of phonograms, including Cd's,when they are destined to ends exclusively private, and do not hit the normal explorationof the art, do not cause unjustified prejuízo of the legitimit of the author, and are not used to ends of public performance and comercialization.           ...
Zman
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Posted : Jan 5, 2008 01:34
Well ideally you should ask the artist if its okay for you to spin it or not.

From a realistic view it doesn't really matter because nobody is going to stop a party to check if the CDs your spinning are real or not except in the freak incident case like Napo spoke about.

From the artist's point of view its only promotion, so if the track is really standout you make have someone coming up to you and asking you what track that was.

So at the end of it i believe as long as the artist has willingly given out the track to the DJ its all good. Its more of a matter related to ethics than the legal point of view.

BooM
Spindrift
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Posted : Jan 5, 2008 17:58
@zmandan
To be ethical IMO you shouldn't have to ask the artist.
It's hardly practical to get permission for each and every track when playing a set, so that situation would be far from ideal.
And I doubt many artists would get upset by the fact that you play tracks from them.

My impression was that the topic is regarding the legal aspect, and there in many cases a permission from the artist does not mean anything.
That's only relevant if it's an unreleased track from an artist not signed up with a royalty organisation.
Most of the time the artist give away the licensing rights to a label or a royalty organisation so they are not in a position to give permission.           (``·.¸(``·.¸(``·.¸¸.·`´)¸.·`´)¸.·`´)
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