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Mixed In Key

Insomniscene


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Posted : Mar 31, 2011 18:39:31
Okay, so after having a few hours mix last night with a friend of mine, I've been seriously thinking about this Mixed In Key program...

His mixing was just so smooth!

I've been thinking about it all day, and I'm quite tempted to buy this now...

Does anyone here use this software? Any problems with it?

I know that sitting with a keyboard/guitar is the best way to work these things out, and that Ableton Live offers practically the same thing with the spectrum analyser...so pre planned sets would be easy...but for mixing, on the spot...

Discuss!

willsanquil
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Posted : Mar 31, 2011 22:43
you can also get Rapid Evolution which is free and does the same thing            If you want to make an apple pie from scratch...you must first invent the universe
www.soundcloud.com/tasp
www.soundcloud.com/kinematic-records
Insomniscene


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Posted : Apr 1, 2011 01:14
I guess I'll go with that one then! Nothing to lose!
Mike A
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Posted : Apr 2, 2011 10:54
Does it better.
Insomniscene


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Posted : Apr 2, 2011 17:13
Just a thought, how would this work when pitchshifting a track?
grahf


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Posted : Apr 4, 2011 10:41
Wow, Rapid Evolution version 3 seems *way* better than version 2, glad I gave it another look. Better layout, native interface, more options, etc... It seems to take a lot longer than Mixed in Key to do its processing, but I suppose its worthwhile if it's more accurate.

Insomniscene, I haven't explored all the features yet but I think there is a way in RE3 to find out the new key value after a specified % pitch change.
Basilisk
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Posted : Apr 4, 2011 23:59
Use key locking and mix within a reasonable BPM range (+/- 2 or 3).
kazuku
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Posted : May 24, 2011 11:30
Just giving this a try now, thanks for the hint
V3NOM
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Posted : May 26, 2011 01:35
I want to know why this is suddenly a big thing? I've had mates dj'ing since the 90's who always had their vinyl sorted in order of key??

Is it simply that it's now easier with digital music to work it out for non-musically trained ppl using software??           I hate you, you hate me, we are all so hap hap happy!
willsanquil
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Posted : May 26, 2011 02:16
It's a big thing now because not everyone has the ability to detect the key of a track without software. I know I can't.

Even if I could, the process of going through my entire library and manually finding the key would probably be one of the least fun things I could ever think of doing. It's hard enough for me to Warp a significant portion of my library let alone go through all of them finding the key.

I really love Rapid Evolution - it has detected all the keys of all my tracks and when I click on a track it highlights the other tracks that are harmonically compatible.

I don't always pick harmonically compatible tracks, sometimes I just pick whatever I feel like and unless it sounds god awful when I mix it I go with my gut. However it is an *incredibly* helpful tool to have at your disposal when creating a mix and since I've started using it my mixes sound SO much better.

But yeah, the concept of mixing 'in key' is about as new as mixing two tracks together.            If you want to make an apple pie from scratch...you must first invent the universe
www.soundcloud.com/tasp
www.soundcloud.com/kinematic-records
mudpeople
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Posted : May 27, 2011 06:10
Usually I just go by feel and sometimes it actually harmonizes, knowing the key though means when mixes harmonize its not just accidental.

Rapid Ev crashed on me last time i tried it, and i keep forgetting to set it to read my music before i hit the hay, the thing does use a bit of cpu.

I couldnt tell you what exact key a track is, btu i can hear harmonies, maybe its from all the years spent on the clarinet and bass guitar, idk...

I just had the idea, too, that knowing the key not only allows harmony, but also intentional non-harmony which can be cool too           .
willsanquil
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Posted : Jun 1, 2011 21:50
See that'd be awesome if I had some past experience playing an instrument so I could feel my way around...but as I have no classic music training I pretty much fumble around in the dark...and software like Rapid Ev is a fucking Maglight.

Oh and yeah it does take a shitload of time lol...I think it took 3-4 days of scanning to find the BPM and the Key of my ~5k psy tracks.            If you want to make an apple pie from scratch...you must first invent the universe
www.soundcloud.com/tasp
www.soundcloud.com/kinematic-records
elastic_plastic
Re-Boot

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Posted : Jun 4, 2011 16:34
virtual dj 6 i can say is more accurate dan mixed in key!!!

try it out n let me know
Basilisk
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Posted : Jun 7, 2011 07:06
Quote:

On 2011-05-26 01:35, V3NOM wrote:
Is it simply that it's now easier with digital music to work it out for non-musically trained ppl using software??



I think you nailed it. Many DJs have no musical training whatsoever. Nothing worse than a tone deaf DJ but at least this stuff can be learned!
Vermeee
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Posted : Jun 8, 2011 00:16
is there plug in to do that in real time in ableton live ? ( to detect the key )           
http://soundcloud.com/bgos
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