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___DJ_Leo
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Posted : Oct 18, 2001 17:25:36
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If only someone could hear Noma's set on the boat before a year.
what a wonderfull minimal set . wow !!
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___ShantiAlien
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Posted : Oct 19, 2001 04:10:47
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I can't say that I don't like minimal but some of it sounds really boring to some people.Some ppl look for sounds that are "on surface" and to understand and enjoy minimal u gotta DIG really deep :).That's why X(tc) people (a big part of party people in Israel) don't like it.
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___MichaelA
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Posted : Oct 19, 2001 14:43:08
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But then, you can't have a party full of minimal music. Minimal music is more repetitive, basically it's kick+bassline repeating, with all kinds of effects and sounds. How much can you listen to than? It gets boring after some time even if it's the most interesting track one after another!
In melodic trance it's always changing and evolving and you get tired of it after a longer time than minimal. |
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___kaz
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Posted : Oct 19, 2001 18:34:41
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Minimal has it's highlights (Son Kite, for instance), when it really does go deep and really tries to use the progression to take people places.
But then again, there are times when the minimal music is too obvious and not nearly as well executed as it could be (that's why I don't really like Paps, for instance).
Saying minimal is not psychedelic is not true in most cases, but it is true that the acidic drives are really something I miss too :) |
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___kaz
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Posted : Oct 19, 2001 18:35:52
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and X people don't really go well with any night music, not just minimal |
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___Kinetichonda
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Posted : Oct 20, 2001 01:27:18
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First of all I know alot of X Users that really dig Techno. there are no melodies in Techno but it's very full on (at least the crazy german and british stuff, represented in Israel by Avner Malka and Ori Lichtik). so I belive that Xers can go for minimal as well. I agree with the pomp man People in Israel have no patience to go into a real trance state.
Oh and Son kite aren't really minimal, their music is quite dense and not as empty as the minimalism. |
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___Alpharhthym
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Posted : Oct 22, 2001 15:41:55
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Thank everyone for replying to this question - you've provided a valuable, multidimensional view from bith sides of the fence. However, with a lot of the comments towards the minimal sound i.e. empty, lacking, digging etc. I know that personally I will be continuing the psy-trance revolution here in the North East of England. I don't know how we ever got in this mess. |
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___MichaelA
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Posted : Oct 22, 2001 21:12:22
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Believe me, you will never regret you got in this mess.
Trance changed mey life :-) If not for trance I would be listening to Britney Spears now... |
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___Tridnod
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Posted : Oct 22, 2001 22:45:23
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Can someone give some ex of minimal? I only listens to pure psy |
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___Kinetichonda
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Posted : Oct 23, 2001 02:09:51
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Dustav, the best minimal stuff of the last half year were: Refer Decree (on Iboga), V/A - Stereoide (on medium) Amphasis (coming out on Plastic Park) and all plastic park and sunset comp's. |
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___squidbyte
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Posted : Oct 23, 2001 18:21:26
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i'll still be playing full sets of dance-your-ass-off arms-in-the-air jumpin-around-off-your-nuttah old school goa in the years to come... out where i'm at we never really had a giant scene so its not old news for us, and frankly i won't get tired as long as there are new elements to play around with... for everyone to follow the same trend is a crime but it only makes certain people stick out more I guess! sometimes I just wish the party organizers and DJs would listen to what the people really want... and out here, we want a trip back just a few years... some DJs get so into it that it becomes a terrible thirst for the newest, freshest sounds and they become very closed to the opinions of the average partier who they may snobbishly consider to not have as 'advanced' a musical taste... and of course we always hear people say "ah screw that its old" or "get with the times" but that isn't the point at all... minimal is fine for some but everything has to co-exist in a sort of balance and harmony... and right now I dream to travel and be able to share some of those old school classics that so many DJs overlook or scoff at nowadays...
how's that for rambling incoherence... i'm listening to ka sol and cant fucking form a sentance straight.. aieeeee |
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___Daz_Monkey_Ruler
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Posted : Oct 24, 2001 04:45:24
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well, im getting into this thread alittle late, but thats aight, i guess. my tastes of music shift around weekly, right now im on a search for whatever remaining old school stuff i can get, whatever is left in stock. my fav. of trance styles is goa, but minimal trance is good, i dont go into it deep enough, i stop with Digweed, Van Dyk, Oaklenfold, Seaman, and Sasha. actaully, i just got home from work, and havent heard one second of trance since 2:00AM last night, before i fell a sleep to Kailum, and im thinking of putting on David Seaman, perhaps itll get some stress out, if not, then its to Alec Empire, some hardcore shit.
well, minimal comes good when needing to sleep, relaxing, and good to end the day with. atleast thats how i see it. |
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___kaz
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Posted : Oct 24, 2001 12:39:46
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Well, adding this bit after Hallucinogen Live last week.
After hearing the groove and the power Hallucinogen had in 1 line (the lead in Gamma Goblins for instance), the drive and the groove in his music....
Hallucinogen prooved to me something I've believed in for a long time. That there is nothintg you can't do in trance.
You can make a really low bpm track with a groovy bassline and still hit people with that FAT, hard, evil line in the track.... and people will respond. Instead of focusing the groove around one thing (bassline/percussion in the minimal sound), you can add to it a whole different layer, and it'll work.
Minimal is nice, but it lacks the one thing that really makes me fly. That sick, evil, drilling line that shouts at me "DANCE LIKE THERE'S NO ONE ELSE IN THE WORLD". Of course, the minimal groove is better than a lot of stuff which doesn't have that one little thing, but lets admit it....
one line can have more power than an entire minimal track if done right.
np: Psychopod - Seriaf :) |
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___DJ_Foka
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Posted : Oct 24, 2001 13:11:29
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For me it's all about variety, for me a party has to have lots o phases.
And when the trackx are good it doesn´t matter what style is it just have to be played on the right time.
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___Alpharhthym
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Posted : Oct 24, 2001 13:26:03
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Squidbite, you're talking my language, man!! Remind me to buy you a pint if ever I see you!! Keep the tune full on, respect. |
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