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      				Posted : Nov 15, 2012 23:33
      				 
      
      			
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 On 2012-11-15 21:52, Axis Mundi wrote:
 "Well don't you guys want to be part of a great movement?"
 
 The desire to be part of something greater than oneself is a common human feeling, which, in my opinion, is based on one of two things (which are most likely related):
 
 1.) The fear of death/the unknown.
 2.) The fear that there is no "greater meaning" to anything.
 
 Personally, I feel like there is enough to wonder and ask questions about in the natural world without needing to diminish it by making up man-made myths, monsters, and spook stories to attempt to explain something which they otherwise cannot explain. So they invent an answer, because it's not as terrifying to them as having no answer at all.
 
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 Good observation.  But you could also say:
 
 The desire to be part of something greater than oneself is a common human feeling, which, in my opinion, is based on one of two things (which are most likely related): 
 
 1.) The love for oneself and others. 
 2.) The fearlessness that arises after accepting that there is no meaning to anything.
 
 I tend to go with these two, for myself anyway.  
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				Axis Mundi		          				 
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      				Posted : Nov 16, 2012 16:25
      				 
      
      			
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						I did not say it could not be spiritual  
 
 Skepticism is very healthy. Carl Sagan in the videos you linked was a big skeptic and wrote several good books on the matter. I suggest his book "A Demon Haunted World: Science As A Candle In The Dark" if you're up for a good read.
 
 But let's face it - the illusion of some kind of control or order is more comforting to people than the realization of no control. That's a fear-based reaction - love has nothing to do with it and throwing in for ancient wisdom does not correlate with love for yourself or other people.
 
 Just because an idea is tenacious does not automatically make it worthy.
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 On 2012-11-16 16:25, Axis Mundi wrote:
 I did not say it could not be spiritual  
 
 Skepticism is very healthy. Carl Sagan in the videos you linked was a big skeptic and wrote several good books on the matter. I suggest his book "A Demon Haunted World: Science As A Candle In The Dark" if you're up for a good read.
 
 But let's face it - the illusion of some kind of control or order is more comforting to people than the realization of no control. That's a fear-based reaction - love has nothing to do with it and throwing in for ancient wisdom does not correlate with love for yourself or other people.
 
 Just because an idea is tenacious does not automatically make it worthy.
 
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 I posted these videos because Carl Sagan represents an skeptic mind who was not hostile toward religion just for the sake of being hostile.
 
 He criticized believing in prophecies, horoscopes and all that hogus bogus, but he believed also that religion has a place in humankind and that it doesnt have to clash with science. He has a book on religion-science relationships too.
 
 We construct the meaning of this holydays, being christmas,  thanksgiving, pascua or mayan cycle end, in the end they are just celebrations that tracend their religious origin and create bonds among human beings. 
 
 
                  "The dedication to repetition — the search for nirvana in a single held tone or an endlessly cycling rhythm — is one of electronic music's noblest gestures."				 | 
					 
					
						
						 
						
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						just remember:
 
 you are the one the world is waiting for
 the one that holds the key
 the one that has the answer
 It's YOU who will break the spell, remember the true way and awaken. 
 
 YOU ARE THE ONE. There can be no other one. really who else? its you my brother sister friend.
 
 Bring it! you are the artist, the shaman, the connector of worlds, the peacemaker, the visionary and true one the world is waiting for. 
 
 In Lakesh. 
 
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      				Posted : Nov 19, 2012 19:16
      				 
      
      			
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						1. 	bring it 	
 	
 Used as a "manly" come back to someone who is either being challenged or it can be offered as a direct challenge to another;
 
 Similar expressions:
 "Show me what you got!"
 "Do your worst"
 "Bring your shit!"
 "Go for it!"
 Basketball Player 1: "Im gonna slam dunk yo punk ass."
 Basketball Player 2: "Ahhhight, bring it bitch. Let's see what you got!"
 
  
 
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      				Posted : Nov 19, 2012 19:50
      				 
      
      			
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						"bring it!" is being shouted out by two armies right now as we speak. 
 
 Let's see who can bring the Love once and for all.
 
 
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						What happens? Depends on your perception and who helped in engineering your perception… On the 21st of december,  some believe the Mayan's will return as the serpent and harvest its followers…Eye took a trip once past the borders to be a skeptic.. Eye learned that skepticism was boring and that a true skeptic would eventually become skeptic over itself. Proving it was an awakening... Me wus enlightened to learn that type of thinking lacks imagination and thought creates reality so me couldnt no longer allow that type of thinking into my safety zone… ..  
   
 Butt! if ya want to toss around some exotic particles then the serpent can translate to the coiled snake representing the spiraling DNA in medical symbology  -  opening, activating, bringing you to higher levels of consciousness like in some yoga's or whatever your perception of the serpent is…. Many will notice it and many will never know! 
 
                   
  
 
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 On 2012-11-20 21:47, BrainLizzard wrote:
 What happens? Depends on your perception and who helped in engineering your perception… On the 21st of december,  some believe the Mayan's will return as the serpent and harvest its followers…Eye took a trip once past the borders to be a skeptic.. Eye learned that skepticism was boring and that a true skeptic would eventually become skeptic over itself. Proving it was an awakening... Me wus enlightened to learn that type of thinking lacks imagination and thought creates reality so me couldnt no longer allow that type of thinking into my safety zone… ..  
   
 Butt! if ya want to toss around some exotic particles then the serpent can translate to the coiled snake representing the spiraling DNA in medical symbology  -  opening, activating, bringing you to higher levels of consciousness like in some yoga's or whatever your perception of the serpent is…. Many will notice it and many will never know! 
 
 
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 On 2012-11-21 01:32, Colin OOOD wrote:
 Don't wait until someone else's choice of date to change your world.  You have the power to change it right now.
 
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 25.12.2012   
 
 Actually this is nonsense .
 
 
 And ill quote you this post again at the 26 .
 
 
 
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