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Lysergic Acid Diethylamide and other psychedelic drugs

Psilocibino
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Posted : Aug 6, 2004 14:31
that is very true EYB...wacht out for that crazy MDMA...it feels so good as much as it makes so damage..(but i still do it from time to time )..
i think psychoactives, in most of the cases, leads to an consciousness expansion, so you listen and fell the music in a different way, and probably you'll have another type of sensativitie when you are producing! but that DOESN'T mean you have to do drugs to make good music...
Psychoactives changed my way of living, not only in the music context, but mostly in the way i see(not with the eyes) the world, so....for me, they are important!!
deejayridoo
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Posted : Aug 6, 2004 15:36
the psychedelic experience is the core of our music and culture. it can never be separated from mysticism. if you separate it, then it becomes fetish like and looses all its deeper meaning. the question is: "are entheogenic substances indispensable to have these overwhelming sensations of omneness?
definitely not!
but:
in our western culture it is a great benefit that there are such substances as lsd to enable us to experience non-dualism and the fact that our reality is a subjective mental construct and that there are so much more ways to see things and to invent your own reality than you ever thought.
we are so addicted to this superficial narrow minded consumption orientated way of living that the great majority of us would never have made this experience if there weren´t such substances to introduce us to this spiritual worls.
so, to resume, these plants and substances are "gifts of nature" and they should be treated like that. once they have introduced you to thwe magic, no need to repeat that all the time. one trip is so much that you can meditate on this experience for years and learn a lot from it.
otherwise it becomes one more merchandise.
those substances aren´t there to enjoy funny optical experiences. those who use them just for that abuse the spiritual power of it.
i´d say that the dark side, the horror aspects of totally loosing control over "yourself" is essential for the beneficial selfdevelopment.
Dr_Faguntes


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Posted : Aug 6, 2004 16:46
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On 2004-08-06 15:36, deejayridoo wrote:
i´d say that the dark side, the horror aspects of totally loosing control over "yourself" is essential for the beneficial selfdevelopment.



So nice...
Essencial??? U should say that to all those acidheads that are at this moment locked up in mental institutions. Here in Portugal we have hundreads of them.
A profound psychedelic experience is not for everybody. Some people can handle it very well and some don't, and sometimes the experience is so intense that there's no turning back and then some lifes are ruined. And you talk about selfdevelopment? Maybe for some people...
Psilocibino
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Posted : Aug 6, 2004 19:22
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On 2004-08-06 15:36, deejayridoo wrote:
in our western culture it is a great benefit that there are such substances as lsd to enable us to experience non-dualism and the fact that our reality is a subjective mental construct and that there are so much more ways to see things and to invent your own reality than you ever thought.
we are so addicted to this superficial narrow minded consumption orientated way of living that the great majority of us would never have made this experience if there weren´t such substances to introduce us to this spiritual worls.



i totally agree with you mate

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On 2004-08-06 16:46, Dr_Fagundes wrote:
A profound psychedelic experience is not for everybody



I agree even more... let's hope some day it will!!!
Vanessao
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Posted : Aug 7, 2004 01:24
*at this moment locked up in mental institutions.*
me is the real prof of this

*and sometimes the experience is so intense that there's no turning back *

it is possible for turning back , it is a matter of time and dedication to it.
luje


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Posted : Aug 7, 2004 03:14
For art to exist, for any sort of aesthetic activity or perception to exist, a certain physiological precondition is indispensable: intoxication.

Friedrich Nietzsche (1844–1900). Twilight of the Idols, “Expeditions of an Untimely Man,” aph. 8
Goblim
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Posted : Aug 7, 2004 22:50
All i say is: You can't know what's behind the door if you've never opened it.
          Ut ameris, amabilis esto.
Elad
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Posted : Aug 8, 2004 09:52
i'd have to say acid is the key without it whats the point?
dance party?
pplz, i come to hallucinate and make u feel the same way. somebody to say my mix is not as perfect as it is when im clear? doubt if anyone can tell me 4 real my truth? i think no defenitly not here and just remember - fuck trance its all acid music remember?
acid is the elctricity in party and anyway-
my idol is dj yorg and fuck that man he plays 3 days and nights alone eating as much drugz as he can and giving to the crowd the rest... hampi 93 pplz no one asked if acid part of it - thats the key to this world...           www.sattelbattle.com
http://yoavweinberg.weebly.com/
Stash
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Posted : Aug 8, 2004 11:13
a Dj whose not tripping can deliver the best performance IMO........

he can give the crowd what they want and really kill everyone on the dancefloor.........

under the influence of drugs his thinking/perception about reality is definitely altered and therefore his set is not that great IMO

bom

          At the end there is a DOOR & waiting for you on the other side of that door is either HEAVEN or HELL
Sektor666
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Posted : Aug 8, 2004 11:24
I ate three Gamburgers and it's improoved my mixing skills .

Talamska , FLousamsara and Dopamin , i'm with you .

Drugs is not a key to succesful music production or mixing .

I used drugs and Dj on drugs , yes it is create somesort of sense in whole music but this sense is understoodble only for me , others have their own

Tsabeat i have the idol in the life - "to be family man with" kids , wife , good job and make music for fun . You have an idol of very fucked up drug user .


Don't you guys see that most of Psy artists , Dj do not have life , and for what , they became famous ? no noone know them and after they retire noone willremember , does it worth to eat drugs to understand music more even if it helps to understand it ?

Don't you argee that LSD or other psychoactive drug action on your nerves is unpredicteble ? So maybe the Trips you had are not like other ppl Trips and you can understand their mind while them on drugs , so what you will eat LSD all your life to understand ?

drug is illusion , so create reality . It is harder to live without drugs but this is the way of life .

Accient native americans used to have psychoactive dream to see their future but not whole tribe did it , only tribe chiefs , so you feel like chiefs of humanity or trance scene ?

Chiefs which are artists in that case mostly not use drugs or pretend to use them , to make more noise around their reputation .
DiMiTry
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Posted : Aug 8, 2004 12:51
2 very different threads here. but if you must, well...

#1 - various psychoactive drugs make my sets sound different, but generally don't impact the mixing, unless taken in large doses. you have to be somewhat experienced with them, though. don't take your virgin hit of acid and get behind those decks. full-on might just bore you to death.

#2 - psychedelic music is created from a psychedelic state of mind. (and the word "psychedelic" was originally invented to describe a psilocybin-induced effect). now if you're a tibetan lama or a yogi and can achieve that state without drugs, all the power to ya. otherwise, you're probably not making very psychedelic music and you shouldn't call it 'psytrance.'

cheers
luje


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Posted : Aug 9, 2004 00:06
I'm totally with tsabeat and DimiTry.

There have been many naive uses of the word psychedelic.

IMO e-flip candy drop full-on can become very boring too.

Learn to surf the wave and you'll deliver much better attitude on your music
Sektor666
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Posted : Aug 9, 2004 02:01
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On 2004-08-08 12:51, DiMiTry wrote:
2 very different threads here. but if you must, well...

#1 - various psychoactive drugs make my sets sound different, but generally don't impact the mixing, unless taken in large doses. you have to be somewhat experienced with them, though. don't take your virgin hit of acid and get behind those decks. full-on might just bore you to death.

#2 - psychedelic music is created from a psychedelic state of mind. (and the word "psychedelic" was originally invented to describe a psilocybin-induced effect). now if you're a tibetan lama or a yogi and can achieve that state without drugs, all the power to ya. otherwise, you're probably not making very psychedelic music and you shouldn't call it 'psytrance.'

cheers




What is state of trance means ? See colors in eyes ? To hear voices in distorted form ? To think that way and advertise drugs and their greatness amoung young/"virgin" users of this forum ?

Psychedelic music hehehehehehe , it is music like all other but very freak form nothing more no tibet and no Delay Lama .
Listen to underground techno/jazz/country (which are not psychedelic music) under dope and you will see it trippin you the same , maybe even better ........... who knows
DiMiTry
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Posted : Aug 9, 2004 02:40
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On 2004-08-09 02:01, Sektor666 wrote:

What is state of trance means ? See colors in eyes ? To hear voices in distorted form ? To think that way and advertise drugs and their greatness amoung young/"virgin" users of this forum ?



State of trance is much, much more than hearing voices in distorted form. If you haven't experienced it, I cannot explain it to you.

No, I do not advertise drugs. I only relate my personal experience with them - no more, no less. I am not going to spread fear and paranoia, nor will I encourage others to do any substances.


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Psychedelic music hehehehehehe , it is music like all other but very freak form nothing more no tibet and no Delay Lama .
Listen to underground techno/jazz/country (which are not psychedelic music) under dope and you will see it trippin you the same , maybe even better ........... who knows



dude, I was taking psychedelics, listening to all different kinds of music, and DJing for years before I discovered psytrance. With a few exceptions, to me it is the most transcendent psychedelic music there is.


snowflake


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Posted : Aug 9, 2004 20:00
IMHO, the borderline is wether you're HIGH on drugs or you're FUCKED on drugs....

the bottom line is that ppl should be responsible for the outcome of their own deeds!!!
(this aplies to a couple of more recent threads...)           Out Here We're Stoned....
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