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LSD / Acid VS. Magic Mushroom ::::: Goa VS. Psytrance

tbe


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Posted : Sep 15, 2005 12:58
never read such bullshits...... " understand", "doors open"... AHAHA !! Go back on earth. What you like is drug, not music.........
Ciao
crovax


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Posted : Sep 15, 2005 13:47
I don't know what bullshit
I rarely do psychedelics for a party
But the psychedelics has unlocked the door
The full power psytrance is opening it again and again and again
Evil Fucker

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Posted : Sep 15, 2005 14:14
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On 2005-09-15 13:47, crovax wrote:
I don't know what bullshit
I rarely do psychedelics for a party
But the psychedelics has unlocked the door
The full power psytrance is opening it again and again and again

don't worry to much about it crovax there are some who are enligthted and some who are not .....

and @ 'the' for us the drugs are quite old fashioned next to the music we have today ....were no drugs needed
Pt.
IsraTrance Senior Member

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Posted : Oct 3, 2005 12:58
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On 2005-09-15 12:58, tbe wrote:
What you like is drug, not music.........
Ciao




of cource .. ::: drugs + music = love

I prefer to be inside the music in 4D then to listen to it in 3D or 2D.
The Green Channel
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Posted : Oct 3, 2005 13:07
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On 2005-10-03 12:58, Kire-naj wrote:
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On 2005-09-15 12:58, tbe wrote:
What you like is drug, not music.........
Ciao




of cource .. ::: drugs + music = love

I prefer to be inside the music in 4D then to listen to it in 3D or 2D.



Yes, when the sound turns into sorround sound, although it´s stereo...
          "Love is a way of life"

(Gaia, Love, Nature, Shamanism (.2A.y.0a.hu.1a.sc.2a.), Terence McKenna)
exotic
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Posted : Oct 3, 2005 14:16
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of cource .. ::: drugs + music = love

I prefer to be inside the music in 4D then to listen to it in 3D or 2D.




i love that 4th dimension .


          missing plug-in
PlutoDelic
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Posted : Oct 7, 2005 02:30
interesting how much comments come to life only why a small Molecule called LSD or Psilocybin takes the place of Serotonin

but if i post something, then why not post my own opinion too

Drugs are like Scripts.
          PSYKS
Pt.
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Posted : Oct 7, 2005 08:53
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On 2005-10-07 02:30, PlutoDelic wrote:
interesting how much comments come to life only why a small Molecule called LSD or Psilocybin takes the place of Serotonin

but if i post something, then why not post my own opinion too

Drugs are like Scripts.




and... (i'm interested in the rest of your opinion.)
Psycosmo
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Posted : Oct 7, 2005 08:55
Well put PlutoDelic.
That gets me thinking...

I am intrigued by the idea that of a chemical changing ones perception of music. Because a drug is a chemical that acts on specific receptors there must be some direct link between the physical changes that a drug causes in the brain and the physical charcteristics of ones perception (for example the perciencved pitch of a sound being shifted). Because LSD and psilocybin are slightly different (although in many respects very similar) in their relative affinity for different kinds of serotonin receptor (there are at least 14 kinds of serotonin receptor fyi), it seems likely to me that there might be differences in the way they alter perception. I imagine that individual differences also make a big difference in the details of how a drug changes a persons perception (I wonder if certain peoples percieving some geometric forms and colors more than others whilst on certain drugs has more to do with the persons genetic makeup or their enviroment)


However whether certain music sounds good on a particular drug seems like more a matter of aesthetic tastes. Why should peoples taste in hallucinations vary any less than peoples tastes in art and music? They both have to do with judging beauty.
The Green Channel
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Posted : Oct 7, 2005 09:43
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On 2005-10-07 08:55, Psycosmo wrote:
Well put PlutoDelic.
That gets me thinking...

I am intrigued by the idea that of a chemical changing ones perception of music. Because a drug is a chemical that acts on specific receptors there must be some direct link between the physical changes that a drug causes in the brain and the physical charcteristics of ones perception (for example the perciencved pitch of a sound being shifted). Because LSD and psilocybin are slightly different (although in many respects very similar) in their relative affinity for different kinds of serotonin receptor (there are at least 14 kinds of serotonin receptor fyi), it seems likely to me that there might be differences in the way they alter perception. I imagine that individual differences also make a big difference in the details of how a drug changes a persons perception (I wonder if certain peoples percieving some geometric forms and colors more than others whilst on certain drugs has more to do with the persons genetic makeup or their enviroment)


However whether certain music sounds good on a particular drug seems like more a matter of aesthetic tastes. Why should peoples taste in hallucinations vary any less than peoples tastes in art and music? They both have to do with judging beauty.



I agree with most of you’re post my friend,
But I do think that there are specific kinds of music, which are preferable for most people on certain types of Psychedelics.
The entheogen Ayahuasca for instance, is way better with natural organic sounds like congas, hymns and chants. In general, I would say that Ayahuasca and chilled psychedelia go well together, especially if you are preparing the Ayahuasca for proposes of ritual (Which BTW is the only way Aya should be used)…
Acid is a bit different I must admit, it’s definitely also a matter of personal taste and dosage, if you’re on really high dose LS-25, I would not recommend playing the most evil kind of dark-psy, even though it’s normally you’re preferred style of psychedelic.

          "Love is a way of life"

(Gaia, Love, Nature, Shamanism (.2A.y.0a.hu.1a.sc.2a.), Terence McKenna)
Psycosmo
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Posted : Oct 7, 2005 18:02
Hmmmm. You see I like Space Tribe for Aya and Dark Psy/Industrial for the lysergic.
KuKulKan


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Posted : Oct 7, 2005 19:22
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On 2005-10-07 09:43, The Green Channel wrote:
I agree with most of you’re post my friend,
But I do think that there are specific kinds of music, which are preferable for most people on certain types of Psychedelics.
The entheogen Ayahuasca for instance, is way better with natural organic sounds like congas, hymns and chants. In general, I would say that Ayahuasca and chilled psychedelia go well together, especially if you are preparing the Ayahuasca for proposes of ritual (Which BTW is the only way Aya should be used)…
Acid is a bit different I must admit, it’s definitely also a matter of personal taste and dosage, if you’re on really high dose LS-25, I would not recommend playing the most evil kind of dark-psy, even though it’s normally you’re preferred style of psychedelic.




In my opinion also the Peyote its better with some chilled psychedelia, ambient music or something by the style, but it depends of the person, your mood, your thoughts, also the set and setting, its not a drug, its something different, a sacred plant, also the magic mushrooms, you can't abuse of them, you will always learn something of them.

Thats my opinion.
          ::: Dance when you're broken up, Dance when you're perfectly free, Dance in your Blood :::
The Green Channel
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Posted : Oct 7, 2005 20:06
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On 2005-10-07 18:02, Psycosmo wrote:
Hmmmm. You see I like Space Tribe for Aya and Dark Psy/Industrial for the lysergic.



, Well try some chants next time and tell me what you think , aya is a different kind of psychedelic. Try using ayahuasca as the shaman's do.

LOVE.           "Love is a way of life"

(Gaia, Love, Nature, Shamanism (.2A.y.0a.hu.1a.sc.2a.), Terence McKenna)
The Green Channel
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Posted : Oct 7, 2005 20:08
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On 2005-10-07 19:22, KuKulKan wrote:
its not a drug, its something different, a sacred plant, also the magic mushrooms, you can't abuse of them, you will always learn something of them.

Thats my opinion.



Couldn't agree more.           "Love is a way of life"

(Gaia, Love, Nature, Shamanism (.2A.y.0a.hu.1a.sc.2a.), Terence McKenna)
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