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Love and Peace, Party and Police

Psycosmo
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posts :  787
Posted : Jun 29, 2006 20:16
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when someone fucked up and go home his parrents will call police and fuck them because his child have freaked out, the Boss of the club is resposible for this cituation and the cops fuck him



Very true. A major problem is the lack of belief in individual responsibility for ones actions.

If you swim with no lifegaurd, and drown, then sue the owner of the property.

If you take drugs and die, blame the owner of the place where you took them

If you jump out a hotel window, sue the hotel for having a window that was able to be opened (ever wonder why you can't open windows in hotels?)

If you choose to smoke cigarettes and get cancer, sue the tobacco companies.

If you eat at McDonalds and turn into a fatass with a bad heart and clogged arteries, sue McDonalds.

If you can find a way into an abandoned building, and you get hurt whilst exploring in there, SUE! The building was an "attractive nuiscence" because the owner did not pervent you from being able to enter it.

Unfortunately, modern society seems to love to blame everyone for bad things that happen except for the individual who made a choice of their own free will. Until we live in a society with a culture of personal responsibility, we will always be treated like babies, told what chemicals we can ingest, how loud our headphones are allowed to be (those you in the EU know what Im talkin about right) and all this bullshit that is designed to protect us from ourselves.
Sakiskimo
IsraTrance Junior Member

Started Topics :  22
Posts :  2012
Posted : Jun 29, 2006 20:22
Quote:

On 2006-06-29 20:16, Psycosmo wrote:
Quote:
when someone fucked up and go home his parrents will call police and fuck them because his child have freaked out, the Boss of the club is resposible for this cituation and the cops fuck him



Very true. A major problem is the lack of belief in individual responsibility for ones actions.

If you swim with no lifegaurd, and drown, then sue the owner of the property.

If you take drugs and die, blame the owner of the place where you took them

If you jump out a hotel window, sue the hotel for having a window that was able to be opened (ever wonder why you can't open windows in hotels?)

If you choose to smoke cigarettes and get cancer, sue the tobacco companies.

If you eat at McDonalds and turn into a fatass with a bad heart and clogged arteries, sue McDonalds.

If you can find a way into an abandoned building, and you get hurt whilst exploring in there, SUE! The building was an "attractive nuiscence" because the owner did not pervent you from being able to enter it.

Unfortunately, modern society seems to love to blame everyone for bad things that happen except for the individual who made a choice of their own free will. Until we live in a society with a culture of personal responsibility, we will always be treated like babies, told what chemicals we can ingest, how loud our headphones are allowed to be (those you in the EU know what Im talkin about right) and all this bullshit that is designed to protect us from ourselves.






Something like this .            (`·._.· Everything interesting begins in the mind ·._.·´)
pixie satinka
IsraTrance Junior Member

Started Topics :  15
Posts :  523
Posted : Jun 29, 2006 21:36
nice topic mad eclipse...
interestin thots frm all...
but i agree wid Vicky...in india the reason the cops get their panties in a twist is cos theyre so fuckin caught up in the whole narc scne man...like they make frnt page news for catchin kids wid d's so ya tht puts them in a goodlight for workin hard n protectin the nation from such "evils".... the moment they get news of a party theyre there first to make a quick buck n if tht doesnt work then fuck evry1s trip n earn acknowledgement frm the seniors...
as long as d's r involved i feel cops will b involved... how do we change ppls minds abt tht? thrs no way u can keep d's away frm a party...not even in dubai mannn....lol...
jes my 2 cents...
boom
Psycosmo
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posts :  787
Posted : Jun 30, 2006 09:32
I understand that the drugs thing is the main reason (excuse?) for shutting down parties.

But that is not a legitimate way to deal with the drug "problem", at least not in any nation that claims to value the idea of individual justice (as opposed to collective punishment). Just because a high proportion of trancers use drugs is not a reason for the police to illegally search you or treat you like a criminal, or shut down what would otherwise be a legal gathering. When people know their rights and take a firm but respecful tone with authority figures a lot of unecessary trouble can be avoided. Unless you are actually caught red-handed doing something illegal and you keep your cool and dont give the police a reason to search you, the law is generally on your side, at least in the USA.

In the long term, we should be focused on trying to get psychedelic drugs legalized. Lets face it, drugs are essential to our culture, it would not exist were it not for psychedelic drugs, and we will never be able to exist freely as long as those absurd but oh so deeply ingrained laws are in place.
omniform


Started Topics :  1
Posts :  31
Posted : Sep 4, 2006 20:52
Drugs have given psytrance a bad name..

I hate it when artists show off their drug use, nomatter how good the song, people shouldn't be yelling it out to the world, giving all other artists around them a bad image, when most of them are just making really beautiful music.

The psychedelic experience isn't at all dependent on drugs, and its seeming like its hard to explain that to authority. (Maybe even the effects now of what went on with psychedelic rock in the 60's)

But enough with stating the obvious...
I agree, think twice, be smart, but psytrance isn't dying anytime soon, nomatter how "opressed" the parties become.           [o m n i f o r m]
shamanizer


Started Topics :  7
Posts :  367
Posted : Sep 5, 2006 10:43
Psychedelic experience cannot be experienced without psychedelic drugs. Period.
If thats giving the scene a bad image then it has a bad image. Period.
Dennis the menace
DevilsDennis Sparris McHilton

Started Topics :  128
Posts :  2899
Posted : Sep 5, 2006 12:17
Quote:

On 2006-06-29 20:16, Psycosmo wrote:

Very true. A major problem is the lack of belief in individual responsibility for ones actions.

If you swim with no lifegaurd, and drown, then sue the owner of the property.

If you take drugs and die, blame the owner of the place where you took them

If you jump out a hotel window, sue the hotel for having a window that was able to be opened (ever wonder why you can't open windows in hotels?)

If you choose to smoke cigarettes and get cancer, sue the tobacco companies.

If you eat at McDonalds and turn into a fatass with a bad heart and clogged arteries, sue McDonalds.

If you can find a way into an abandoned building, and you get hurt whilst exploring in there, SUE! The building was an "attractive nuiscence" because the owner did not pervent you from being able to enter it.

Unfortunately, modern society seems to love to blame everyone for bad things that happen except for the individual who made a choice of their own free will. Until we live in a society with a culture of personal responsibility, we will always be treated like babies, told what chemicals we can ingest, how loud our headphones are allowed to be (those you in the EU know what Im talkin about right) and all this bullshit that is designed to protect us from ourselves.





The American lifestyle

Sue everything and everyone!!
Pt.
IsraTrance Senior Member

Started Topics :  236
Posts :  6106
Posted : Sep 5, 2006 13:20
Quote:

On 2006-09-05 10:43, shamanizer wrote:
Psychedelic experience cannot be experienced without psychedelic drugs. Period.
If thats giving the scene a bad image then it has a bad image. Period.



*applause* .. so easy
((( MOKKSHH )))
IsraTrance Junior Member

Started Topics :  37
Posts :  770
Posted : Sep 5, 2006 15:54
i dunno wher n which country u r frm ...
but comin bak to the topic ,i am frm mumbai n the cops out here hav nothin to do with the music or even tripping 4 that matter .i mean when they can supply drugs to the inmates inside the jail then why the hell do they hav a problem with outsiders.
earlier the scene the scne used to get busted bcoz there were lot of the "SO CALLED POLITICIANS" kids involved , n they used to think that their child may get spoilt bcoz of us.
but now every1 in mumbai atleast knw abt the psyscene n they relate to it as " CHARSI KI PARTY "... thats the ground reality .
they knw that if they come to bust they will get lots of money bcoz every1 is loaded ....
but 1 thing has ne1 ever noticed ...
1) they need a warrant to bust the party.
2) outside police except noarcotics branch cant enter without proper documents.
3) why do we need commercialization in this scene.
r we not haapy enough ourselves that we need the entire fcukin world to knw that ok there is this small community knwn as psy community which keeps on buzzin regulary ...
why do we need the entire wrld to knw abt it .
cops do their duty but its mainly bcoz of our iggnorance that this shit happens all ways ...
well i am capable engh n can take care of myself but what abt others who actually run off when a party is busted .
its a shmame to all of us to run away rather than facing the situation bravely .
ru we criminals to run away ...
think guys think abt it           IT T@KES TIME N DEEPER SELF-RE@L!Z@T!ON TO FEEL IT ..... N WHN IT H@PPENS , U KNW TH@T U H@V FIN@LLY ST@RTED!!!!!!!!!!
LiFe Is A TriP.....It HaS BeGuN


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