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"LO LABALON" propaganda
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GuyShanti
Aerospace
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Posted : Nov 16, 2004 20:29
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5Meo-Geo
IsraTrance Junior Member
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Posted : Nov 17, 2004 00:13
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yo folks......
i have some other thing that maybe will open ur eyes bit more about this drug
it is cause serious brain damage......
even more than extasy when over used
ppl that had pass out of it will say ya same stuff
i have few friends that totaly overused it
after passing away 3-4 times (not in a row but in global use of it) they pass out sometimes even without n2o
nervous system defenetly been damaged
also im sure that ppl that didnt passed away becouse of it also feel "brain burning" due the effect
anyway i think its verry nasty shit (hard to call it drug)
also some dude said about osone damage.......
no way dude....
u talking about Freon gas (the one that been used in air conditioners)
its also prety nasty
n2o is totaly nature friendly gas
anyway.....
im sure alot of ppl tried extasy also......
and im also sure that alot of ppl understood how bad it is to use it,even that the "high" is exelent
and im sure that ppl that have bit brain left dont use E anymore....
same u ppl should understand about N2O (and hagigat also,but its different isue)
well that my 2 cents for this isue
im verry glad its out of law now
and ye it will make much more trouble for babons to get it now and defenetly will reduce it apearence at parties
boom
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dreamcaster
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Posted : Nov 17, 2004 10:40
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Nice words 5Meo-Geo !!!
I realy hope that the Baloon Storage will be reduced
so we will all see those Truble making Baboons less and less....
i won't miss those tsssssssss tssssssss sounds for sure and all it side efects ( ppl hitting the ground , fights , stabs , bad vibes ... did i miss something ? ) ....
freindly gas or not n2o suck !!! it spreds bad vibes all around , try 2 remmember a party without ballons that u have been and one with them , compere them , probably u'll end with the same cunclusion as mine : who need those shitty ballons ?! there r so many plesently and freindly way 2 get Hige
     
Enjoy life
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Colin OOOD
OOOD/Voice of Cod
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Posted : Nov 17, 2004 11:13
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On 2004-11-17 00:13, 5Meo-Geo wrote:
yo folks......
...stuff about n20
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http://www.drugtext.org/library/books/recreationaldrugs/nitrous.htm
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Correctly used, it is always administered with 20 to 35 percent oxygen, necessary to prevent anoxia, or oxygen deprivation. Effects are almost immediate, beginning within fifteen to thirty seconds, remaining about one to three minutes, and totally out of the system within five to ten minutes. Repeated inhalation creates a continuous high. It is nonaddictive and nonallergenic, with very slight tolerance development after repeated or prolonged administration. No withdrawal symptoms occur, and nitrous may be used safely in conjunction with other narcotic agents, or local anesthetic injections.
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Depending on dosage, nitrous may have a short-term effect on memory, concentration, and sensory function. Feelings of floating, driving, or flying have been noted, and there is a general sense of detachment from the body. Properly used, it is one of the safest of all drugs |
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5Meo-Geo
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Posted : Nov 17, 2004 13:36
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Oxygen deprivation is the chief danger of nitrous use. Sustained inhalation, unaccompanied by adequate oxygen, , may be rapidly followed by severe decerebration (braindeath), heart failure, pulmonary edema, or organic brain damage. Cyanosis, indicated by slow pulse, rise in blood pressure, twitching of the muscles, violent respiration which becomes increasingly shallow and irregular, and delirium, may accompany oxygen shortage. White-blood-cell count may drop and tissues may dry out, resulting in bronchial , irritation.
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from same link oood 
anyway i dont think they made same test that equal to drugie inhaling 5-10 ballons in 2-3 hours of time
and for sure didnt test usage of this kind on weekly use
also there is nothing about side effects for long time......
i didnt knew about white cells thou
so its also migh promote cancer aswell
well 10x for link oood
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Colin OOOD
OOOD/Voice of Cod
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Posted : Nov 18, 2004 02:22
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Yeah, I saw that, but you'll only get those effects by "sustained inhalation, unaccompanied by adequate oxygen", and are a result of oxygen deprivation - as your quote above says - rather than n2o itself. To repeat - those effects are not due to the gas itself, but from not breathing enough oxygen. And anyway, if this thread was about the medical effects of drugs we'd be discussing something really dangerous, like tobacco. If nitrous is so dangerous, why is it used as an anaesthetic all over the world?
I guess it must be something about parties in Israel that mean the sale of nitrous causes a problem, because we certainly don't have any problems with it here! I look forward to having the opportunity to find out for myself... 
Anyway, none of us are going to convince the other about this, so I'll try and make this post my last word on the subject. The last thing I want to do is piss any of you good people off.
All the best,
Colin
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Elad
Tsabeat/Sattel Battle
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Posted : Nov 18, 2004 16:03
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p/s 5meo - what u think bout hagigat story?
i personly dont use it but lots friend do and not thru eatin it.. seems bad isea i rather chew leafs even.. hehe that can b nice!
hashish and shroomz here thank u 
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5Meo-Geo
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Posted : Nov 19, 2004 00:51
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hmmmm
"hagigat" is supose to be so called "meth-cathinone"
cathinone is active alcaloid (along with some others) in ghat tree leafs
meth-cathinone is already different molecule
than cathinone
effect of meth-cath is nothing to compare to chewing the leafs
meth-cath is one of most addictive chemicals out there
some says that pure meth-cath is higher than coce
and way more addictive than coce
the problem with it that u need not that much to get high
and hagigat capsules r arround 300-500 mg mixture of wierd powders
there is some meth-cath in them for sure but in low % and there is also some unknown powders that make it to such "unsafe" and "durty" drug
i wont go into speculations about what been added to it
only that if one would purify hagigat he would stay with like 50-80 mg of pure active crystals
bottom line.....
im glad its out of law now
kids was using this drug.....
lots of ppl got hospitalised cose of this drug....
hash and shrooms is good choice
shrooms is best
Jesus didnt dance,but his beat goes on
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A.p.e
A.P.E.
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Posted : Nov 19, 2004 20:48
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I have no problem with nitrox users in parties or other... i mean nitrox is the lightest drug being done in trance parties by ppl. I have a problem with criminal baloon sellers fighting and stabbing each other in parties
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GUY SHANTI
i think guy explains it best .
and insted of taking care to stickers...
why not taking care to trash cans !?
many times i have been TOTALY BLASTED in partys and i used some ballons\drinks
and after i finished my ballons ,even wan i was on dleka i searched the nearest trashcan
but i didnt find it...
THERE IS NO TRASHCANS AT NATURE PARTYIES...
(unless it really big production)
this is somthing we gotta change ,or at least make the partyies more green
btw ,my new upcoming relese is named
"Who is trying to fuck with my planet"
LOL ,taking exactly about this issue
peace
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Dustrial
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Posted : Nov 21, 2004 11:01
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back to the propaganda
IM ALL FORWARD IT
BAN THE BALLOON DUDES !
other then the fact that gaz is dangerous
the ballon guys are more dangerous after doing 14 or 15 of there balloons
i cant belive im saying this y'all but
JUST SAY NO AND THE BALLON DUDES WILL GO
we dont need em 2 destroy out vibes
we got enough shit as it is
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Yarden
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Posted : Nov 21, 2004 18:48
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personally i don't have a problem with ppl who uses baloons and a lot of my friends use it ,and even me once in a very while use it but only whil i'm sachi,but i think everyone who uses baloons should stop for a minute and think what it means to him coz when i look at ppl who do it all i see is junkies and drug addicts,i mean ppl use acid which is one of the most powerfull drugs if not the most powerfull but still its not enough for them they want to go higher and its the fastest way to losing yourself and than someday you'll find yourself dropping 8 blotters in one party and from there the way to a mental institution is very fast and i compare it to the junkies who mix their drugs with a lot of pills pain relievers and everything they find in order make the high stronger but the they die from what they call in the newspapers an overdose but its actually a bad mix. but everyone with his decisions as an adult man.
and about the ugly ppl who sell it? its sad but i dont think there's nothing you can do about it they come and they are criminals and you cant say a thing to make them go away and if you'll try you probably lose.
maybe we should stop palying fullon at our parties and only progressive and soumi style and than arsim will like the music less and they will go and take their extot at the tlv |
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psychild
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Posted : Nov 22, 2004 22:22
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Well candy I guess your quest for ridding our scene of this discusting habit is starting to pay off. I've just turned on channel 2 (which I don't do too often) and who do I see but Ilana Dayan in prime time doing a 20 min. piece on guess what? The baloon problem in the club scene!
Just so that those outside of israel could understand how big this problem has gotten here - channel 2 is the main israeli channel and Ilana Dayan is a big investigative journalist who has been doing a documentary program called 'Fact' on and off for many years now right after the evening news.
The piece showed young people near clubs (I think it was the TLV area) doing baloons and those crimminals who sell them. They had people descibing the effects of the stuff and had one seller saying that he never touches the stuff himself. They also said that the baloon sellers steal the stuff from dentists' clinics although the reporter went and called up the only company that makes the stuff here and pretending to be a doctor(giving his liscence number over the phone) easily bought himself a 27 killo container for 670 shekels, which could be sold at parties for 20000 shekels. They also showed a court scene where two baloon gangs were brought in after a battle over turf which ended up in stabbings.
Well I guess that's it for those little hissing bundles of "joy". Wether u like it or not, I'm thinking the government is gonna do to them the same thing they did to hagigat, that is outlaw them. That's how things are done in this country. As soon as there's a new thing that young people are enjoying and it's not being taxed, it's outlawed.
Now don't get me wrong. I think those baloons are bad, but I belive in freedom of choice. Let each person decide how to fuck up his brain. But I guess we've lost that battle on many other things except for alcochol and tobaco (again things that can be taxed), because it's much better for our youth to kill themselves in car crashes while drunk than a few seconds of high outside a club.
If u ask me I've always said that the problem is not in the baloons but in the baboons that sell them. But that's the way it is here. When something proffitable is found crimminals and haperim jump all over it, make a mess, the state comes in and outlaws it. Well I guess the state has solved another problem for us
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